The red squirrel climbing aider

[Carl Craig]

I'm confused. The top Stepp is your hand hold.

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Yes it is if you use the first step around chest high and add another step as high as you can reach and then attach the aider to top step and climb.
But with Red's way he is not putting on two steps at first and he said he put the first one on chest high in initial post then climbed up on step and set next one and so on....... I'm saying I found that the first step needed to be around belly button for correct feet placement.
Was asking if this was correct or if I'm missing something that video would show......

 

[DaveT1963]

Yes it is if you use the first step around chest high and add another step as high as you can reach and then attach the aider to top step and climb.
But with Red's way he is not putting on two steps at first and he said he put the first one on chest high in initial post then climbed up on step and set next one and so on....... I'm saying I found that the first step needed to be around belly button for correct feet placement.
Was asking if this was correct or if I'm missing something that video would show......

Not sure how tall you are but I would think most guys could easily get 4 foot to first step (aider at 2 foot, step at 4 foot)? With that, and if you use aider to get 2 foot and then step into platform you should be able to hit 20 foot with 4 steps and your platform (or steps)

 

[BassBoysLLP]

Not sure how tall you are but I would think most guys could easily get 4 foot to first step (aider at 2 foot, step at 4 foot)? With that, and if you use aider to get 2 foot and then step into platform you should be able to hit 20 foot with 4 steps and your platform (or steps)

I'm not following red's method as written. I have tweaked it to what works best for me.

(After multiple edits) Here is my method:

1.) Install stepp above head. I tie the knot at head height, move the stepp up the tree, adjust tension, and set.

2.) Install second stepp is at chest level.

3.) Wrap tether around the tree above the highest stepp. This also keeps my tether in place. I keep a triangular screw link in my pack when I need to go around a lot of branches. I put this on at the base of tree as needed.

4.) Place foot in ascender loop at comfortable height. Ensure enough slack in lineman belt before making move. With one hand on top Stepp and other hand on tether rope tag, advance the ascender while raising your leg to max.

5.) Step onto chest high stepp. Cinch linemans belt.

6.) Adjust height of top step to head/chest height depending on clothing

7.) Repeat Steps 3-4

8.) Step onto highest step. Cinch linemans belt

9.) Set next step at head height.

10.) Repeat steps 7-9.


Depending on step placement this a 4 to 5 feet per move on average, so 6 steps gets you 24-30 feet.

As for coming down, I find that easier. Just use the aider to get low enough to get a hold of the stepp. Cinch the linemans belt, remove the stepp, and repeat.

Sorry for the edits. My mind isn't working right and blizzards and touchscreens don't play nice together. Wish the deer were moving better.



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[Apex7]

Just felt that a video could help the guys who(myself) have some season left and could add to the quality of their hunts this year. I doubt it would take more than couple minutes to make the video.

Hay Red make the video at your convenience and take care of the important things. The holidays are fast approaching and I'm sure you have a lot of things to do before they get here. I'm no rocket scientist but I can figure it out I can anybody can. I do have one question what kind of strap is that and who makes it and where can I get it. Thanks Red you have been a big help.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

I have also put my knee on the step and stepped fully onto the step with my aider foot when I was a little too ambitious.

I did the knee thing for shigles today. Not the most comfortable way to ascend but it gets the job done.

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[boyne bowhunter]

One of the advantages I see to Red's method is that you need one less step. To use the Wildedge aider you need to place a step above your hunting feet height to attach the aider to so you can step up. This step ends up at waist height when your settled in the tree. With Red's method the tether girth hitched around the tree takes the place of the extra unused step.

 

[redsquirrel]

I haven't tried the wild edge one yet. Why would the WE aider get you higher in the tree? It my mind the aiders are equivalent as far as getting to the same final height with the same stick spacing.

Something got lost here I think. My quote was agreeing that it won't get you higher. As an aside, my aider is just a different way of doing the same thing.

@BassBoysLLP, I have the WE aider. I'll send it to you if you want to try it. But you'll only use it once..

 

[BassBoysLLP]

Something got lost here I think. My quote was agreeing that it won't get you higher. As an aside, my aider is just a different way of doing the same thing.

@BassBoysLLP, I have the WE aider. I'll send it to you if you want to try it. But you'll only use it once..

No, thank you. Appreciate the offer. Thanks for the clarification as well.

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[Carl Craig]

No, thank you. Appreciate the offer. Thanks for the clarification as well.

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Okay I have an update...... Went home last night and tried this again. First of all I never said either method would go higher than the other. All my question was referring to was how Red's technique work being I couldn't picture it in my head and after trying his method about it being chest/neck high, well it didn't work for me. If you also look at the pictures he first sent it looks like the steps are alot farther apart than 4 1/2 ft. Also the tether was to the side of the steps. Red can correct me if I'm wrong but that's after he climbed down. So here is what I tried last night with success.
I have a tether with ropeman but also using the WE aider for the foot step.
1. Placed the tether as high as I could reach on tree.
2. Placed step around top of stomach/bottom of chest
3. Moved tether inline with step instead of off to side
4. Placed foot into aider and adjusted
5. Grabbed rope above step and stepped up on step
6. Repeat 1-5 5x for total of 6 steps

I'm with Red on this method because of tether use instead of hooking aider to step. Thanks Red for idea

 

[BassBoysLLP]

Okay I have an update...... Went home last night and tried this again. First of all I never said either method would go higher than the other. All my question was referring to was how Red's technique work being I couldn't picture it in my head and after trying his method about it being chest/neck high, well it didn't work for me. If you also look at the pictures he first sent it looks like the steps are alot farther apart than 4 1/2 ft. Also the tether was to the side of the steps. Red can correct me if I'm wrong but that's after he climbed down. So here is what I tried last night with success.
I have a tether with ropeman but also using the WE aider for the foot step.
1. Placed the tether as high as I could reach on tree.
2. Placed step around top of stomach/bottom of chest
3. Moved tether inline with step instead of off to side
4. Placed foot into aider and adjusted
5. Grabbed rope above step and stepped up on step
6. Repeat 1-5 5x for total of 6 steps

I'm with Red on this method because of tether use instead of hooking aider to step. Thanks Red for idea

I climb with the tether hanging off the left side of each stepp. Aider on my left foot. Rope in my left hand. Right foot and hand on the stepps.

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[redsquirrel]

Okay I have an update...... Went home last night and tried this again. First of all I never said either method would go higher than the other. All my question was referring to was how Red's technique work being I couldn't picture it in my head and after trying his method about it being chest/neck high, well it didn't work for me. If you also look at the pictures he first sent it looks like the steps are alot farther apart than 4 1/2 ft. Also the tether was to the side of the steps. Red can correct me if I'm wrong but that's after he climbed down. So here is what I tried last night with success.
I have a tether with ropeman but also using the WE aider for the foot step.
1. Placed the tether as high as I could reach on tree.
2. Placed step around top of stomach/bottom of chest
3. Moved tether inline with step instead of off to side
4. Placed foot into aider and adjusted
5. Grabbed rope above step and stepped up on step
6. Repeat 1-5 5x for total of 6 steps

I'm with Red on this method because of tether use instead of hooking aider to step. Thanks Red for idea

That is basically it. I re-read my original post and I did say chest. I think what has happened is that during the very early season I can put the stepp a bit higher and still reach it. As the season has progressed, most of the time the stepp has ended up somewhere in my belly button area to make sure I can reach it when I step up.

I do hang the aider slightly to the left. It makes stepping up to the next step with my right foot easier. It is exaggerated in that photo because the tree was leaning so the aider hung more to the site when I wasn't holding it. I'm glad you like the technique, good luck!

 

[BassBoysLLP]

That is basically it. I re-read my original post and I did say chest. I think what has happened is that during the very early season I can put the stepp a bit higher and still reach it. As the season has progressed, most of the time the stepp has ended up somewhere in my belly button area to make sure I can reach it when I step up.

I do hang the aider slightly to the left. It makes stepping up to the next step with my right foot easier. It is exaggerated in that photo because the tree was leaning so the aider hung more to the site when I wasn't holding it. I'm glad you like the technique, good luck!

If the clothing gets a little too bulky later it might be easier for you to do a one arm muscle up using the stepp while pulling on the rope.

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[Apex7]

Red what type of sling do you use and what strength is it and were did you get it ? Also I was going to use Predator 11 mm rope and a ropeman 1 would that work thanks.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

Red what type of sling do you use and what strength is it and were did you get it ? Also I was going to use Predator 11 mm rope and a ropeman 1 would that work thanks.

ropeman1 and predator works great.

I made my aider using tubular webbing and a water knot to preference



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[redsquirrel]

Red what type of sling do you use and what strength is it and were did you get it ? Also I was going to use Predator 11 mm rope and a ropeman 1 would that work thanks.

ropeman1 and predator works great.

I made my aider using tubular webbing and a water knot to preference

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x2. I just made the loop portion from some milspec webbing I have with an overhand on a bight.

 

[Apex7]

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x2. I just made the loop portion from some milspec webbing I have with an overhand on a bight.

Thanks

 

[Carl Craig]

That is basically it. I re-read my original post and I did say chest. I think what has happened is that during the very early season I can put the stepp a bit higher and still reach it. As the season has progressed, most of the time the stepp has ended up somewhere in my belly button area to make sure I can reach it when I step up.

I do hang the aider slightly to the left. It makes stepping up to the next step with my right foot easier. It is exaggerated in that photo because the tree was leaning so the aider hung more to the site when I wasn't holding it. I'm glad you like the technique, good luck!

Practiced more last night and there is two reasons why I like it better than the other method.
1. As mentioned by you and others , NOT hooking to the step
2. Not trying to tie/adjust knot over my head
Again thanks for idea

 

[Apex7]

x2. I just made the loop portion from some milspec webbing I have with an overhand on a bight.

Could I use a continuous sling I can get one that is 32 inches long ?

 

[redsquirrel]

Could I use a continuous sling I can get one that is 32 inches long ?

You would have to girth hitch it to the ascender. An advantage of tying one on with webbing is that you can tie it to a length that is fit right for you.

 

[BassBoysLLP]

You would have to girth hitch it to the ascender. An advantage of tying one on with webbing is that you can tie it to a length that is fit right for you.

Only if you insist on using the Kong Duck

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