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Team 3 2019

Kurt said:
I moved over to the north side of the oak flat that I saw 2 bucks cross yesterday morning I got set up in the tree in the afternoon for the evening hunt. When I left last night I kept my steps in so I could make an early fast quiet entry this morning. I kicked two deer out going in about 200 yds east of my stand they headed out to the north no blowing no fuss. Other than that my entry was flawless using the morning dropping thermal. I'm not in the tree 10 minutes and I hear a twig snap a beautiful 8pt wide dark but short tines a good buck for here, a definite shooter. He's taking his time he makes it in to 50 yds and the f@#*ing wind shifts,just a swirl against the thermal but enough his head goes up and he starts licking he stood for 3 or 4 min figures he doesn't like the wind and heads south all sneaky like. That was about 630. I watched my wind feather dance the whirling jig for the next 30 min and now I'm sitting in a SW prevailing wind. Perfect for the set up.im sure the outcome would be the same if I stayed on the other side but you can't help but wonder. It's a great morning to hunt. The photo is shot to the south
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Not that you need any but I'm going to give you some advice that I have yet to heed.... the grass is not always greener on the other side! I find my self often times second guessing my setups, thinking I should have setup over there, or i should have went to another spot..... it only takes one thing to go wrong to mess you up. That said things can go right just as quickly!
Keep at it, good luck today!
 
Well I didn't make it into my saddle so this guy doesn't count. I tied on my first step and cammed it over, went to pick up the second and saw this buck staring my direction, 100yards away. He had just got off his bed and was with a small doe. My rifle was laying on the ground next to me. I had a lot of brush in between me and him so I eased over and picked up the gun.

He started walking into an area I couldn't shoot through. Having no rest, I wrapped the sling rested my shoulder on the tree and waited for him to step into an opening just clear enough. I squeezed the trigger, smoke cleared, and he was on the dirt, antlers holding his head up. 105 yards, my shot pulled left but hit him in the neck and dropped him. Bullet could have deflected off a branch or I just pulled it, I was holding pressure to the left with my sling to steady the crosshairs.

Biggest buck I have ever shot he's 27" wide and old, we are guessing 5-5.5 yrs. I was wearing my saddle but not tied in, plus didn't take any pics other than of his rack and at my processor. Awesome trophy for me as it was on the backside of my property and maybe 600 yards behind my house. Not sure I've seen him before, there are a few big ones roaming around my woods.

Great way to end 2019 muzzleloader season, here in Virginia, they release all the dogs tomorrow for General Firearms season, so still hunting becomes almost pointless. I am not a Dog Hunter and it's not my cup of tea.
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ThePennsylvanian said:
Not that you need any but I'm going to give you some advice that I have yet to heed.... the grass is not always greener on the other side! I find my self often times second guessing my setups, thinking I should have setup over there, or i should have went to another spot..... it only takes one thing to go wrong to mess you up. That said things can go right just as quickly!
Keep at it, good luck today!
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I did think of that, but I think he would have caught me up there no matter which side I sat on. Dang wind blew every direction for about 30 min. I think that's why he's there. He can scent check the entire side hill in every direction without moving off that flat........ But I have a plan!!! This afternoon and tomorrow all day I'm going to set up 200 to 300 yds down the hill and in the direction opposite the forecasted dominate wind direction. If he wants to come down the hill looking for some does and he's still up and moving later in the morning then I'll let him come down to me later in the morning when i have a steadier wind. Probably should have done that last night.
 
ARERHODES said:
Well I didn't make it into my saddle so this guy doesn't count. I tied on my first step and cammed it over, went to pick up the second and saw this buck staring my direction, 100yards away. He had just got off his bed and was with a small doe. My rifle was laying on the ground next to me. I had a lot of brush in between me and him so I eased over and picked up the gun.

He started walking into an area I couldn't shoot through. Having no rest, I wrapped the sling rested my shoulder on the tree and waited for him to step into an opening just clear enough. I squeezed the trigger, smoke cleared, and he was on the dirt, antlers holding his head up. 105 yards, my shot pulled left but hit him in the neck and dropped him. Bullet could have deflected off a branch or I just pulled it, I was holding pressure to the left with my sling to steady the crosshairs.

Biggest buck I have ever shot he's 27" wide and old, we are guessing 5-5.5 yrs. I was wearing my saddle but not tied in, plus didn't take any pics other than of his rack and at my processor. Awesome trophy for me as it was on the backside of my property and maybe 600 yards behind my house. Not sure I've seen him before, there are a few big ones roaming around my woods.

Great way to end 2019 muzzleloader season, here in Virginia, they release all the dogs tomorrow for General Firearms season, so still hunting becomes almost pointless. I am not a Dog Hunter and it's not my cup of tea.
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DAM SAM that's a beauty. Congratulations.
 
congrats to @Kurt for getting it done on a heck of a buck!!
Wel looks like archery is done for me, less than a week until the first rifle season opens, WV opens on the 25th. That starts 4 straight weeks of firearms hunting(3 weeks of rifle between WV &PA, then WV muzzleloader), then a week break and another 4 weeks of firearms hunting (PA flintlock late season)!!!!
I hope you guys are still having a great season, if not i hoe your luck changes soon! Getting close to the holidays, stay safe everyone and happy hunting!
 
OK here is a photo of the buck who was flirting with us up at the rifle camp. Here he is standing out in front of one of the shooting shacks the day before we arrived. Unfortunately with 12 hunters, ATV's, and 2 billion farts he was never seen again in daylight. We did find his tracks every day making the rounds around our watches, but all at night - oh well.

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Well I'm back but with nothing to show for it. Sorry guys. It's been a challenging few weeks of hunting that I've been lucky enough not to experience the last few years. Taking some time off to spend with the family and I'll get back after it Thanksgiving morning with one last attempt before gun season opens.
 
OK Team 3, so who has a suggestion for plan for me to transition into a compound bow from a crossbow? Where do I start? What do I need to avoid doing? What bows do I need to look at?
 
MJH said:
OK Team 3, so who has a suggestion for plan for me to transition into a compound bow from a crossbow? Where do I start? What do I need to avoid doing? What bows do I need to look at?
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Never shot a compound before? What’s your price range for everything?

I’d say the bow is one of the least important things to buy. Plenty of “cheaper” ones will do what you need. Most important to me would be nailing your form from the get go and using a good release to help with that. Look into back tension/hinge releases. I started with a trigger release like the majority of hunters (and yes they can be shot with back tension just most don’t). When I was young I had some of the worst target panic I think one could have. It was awful and I had 0 confidence. I eventually shook that but I could have completely avoided it if I just started with a release like the silverback or anything similar. They’re pricey but holy cow even after 20 years of shooting it made me such a better archer and I’m way more confident in a tree now. Next suggestion would be a good reputable bow shop. Someone that lets you take your time and try bows to find what you like. No matter how many it takes and that are knowledgeable on an arrow setup that works for you and will punch through deer. Don’t get hung up on speed. Jerry at southshore archery (online) I think it is will set you right once you’ve got a bow in hand with a draw length and weight. The man is a genius.

I’ll stop rambling on for now but I’m happy to help anyway I can. I’m certainly not an expert but I’ve done a lot of research to help myself be a better archer the last 5+ years.

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@MJH - Many may disagree, but you do not need to spend 1000$ on a setup. Some things I've learned over the years:
If you hunt in weather shoot a whisker biscuit, it wont freeze! I had a qad ultra rest freeze on me.....
Ready to hunt bows are insanely accurate, quite and reliable.
Dont get caught up in the industry marketing of the next big fads, single bevel broadheads are currently hottttt "gotta have its".
Speed is not important, period. You want a reliable arrow setup that penetrates..
All broadheads are lethal, mechanicals, cut on contact or doesn't matter, it's about shot placement, and more importantly shot timing, even then you could still have bad shots. I use 2 blade magnus stingers, they're awesome, I've also shot rage chisel tip 2 blades which were awesome....
Dont be afraid to go against what people are saying, if it works for you use it!!
I'm partial to Bear bows, mine has done me well for 5 years and 3 years prior to that I had another bear rth bow, killed a pile of deer with "cheap setups". Any ready to hunt bow these days will do though.
 
ThePennsylvanian said:
@MJH - Many may disagree, but you do not need to spend 1000$ on a setup. Some things I've learned over the years:
If you hunt in weather shoot a whisker biscuit, it wont freeze! I had a qad ultra rest freeze on me.....
Ready to hunt bows are insanely accurate, quite and reliable.
Dont get caught up in the industry marketing of the next big fads, single bevel broadheads are currently hottttt "gotta have its".
Speed is not important, period. You want a reliable arrow setup that penetrates..
All broadheads are lethal, mechanicals, cut on contact or doesn't matter, it's about shot placement, and more importantly shot timing, even then you could still have bad shots. I use 2 blade magnus stingers, they're awesome, I've also shot rage chisel tip 2 blades which were awesome....
Dont be afraid to go against what people are saying, if it works for you use it!!
I'm partial to Bear bows, mine has done me well for 5 years and 3 years prior to that I had another bear rth bow, killed a pile of deer with "cheap setups". Any ready to hunt bow these days will do though.
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Love this. The only thing I'd add is your set up does matter when it comes to mechanicals. Don't shoot them unless you've got the setup to guarantee they open properly.
 
OK thanks guys.
- I have a reputable bow shop near by with a range
- I won't wade into the fixed vs mechanical debate yet. I have been shooting fixed blade broadheads successfully up to this point...
- I am familiar with the differences between the releases you are talking about, but this is all pretty foreign to me at this point
- My budget is flexible - I can make this project go. I won't buy a Cadillac, but I avoid low grade gear.

Suggest a couple of bows that I can start researching.
 
It's all important. If you have a good bow shop then get down there and shoot a bunch of bows. One will feel better than the others for you. Start with the right draw length on the bows you shoot. You won't be able to get a good feel if they're not set up right. Don't try to pull to much weight. If you have a good trigger squeeze with a gun then you'll be able to shoot a release. I use a thumb style but shoot different ones. Shopping for a setup is the funest thing ever. I agree you don't need to break the bank. Think about how you hunt when picking a sight. Think about if you'll want to shoot with the quiver on or off the bow. I mount my arrows to the bow to carry and then take them off in the tree. It's all personal. Good luck and have fun.
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Thanks guys. I'll keep you posted on where this project goes.

What are you guys considering as your killing range with your bows (practiced experienced archer)? 40yrds? Less?
 
MJH said:
Thanks guys. I'll keep you posted on where this project goes.

What are you guys considering as your killing range with your bows (practiced experienced archer)? 40yrds? Less?
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This is variable, however I've never had to take a shot past 35... I hunt some nasty stuff though. The most important thing to remember is that there are two factors in play when taking a shot, you and the deer. Anyone can get a bow shoot well at 75 yards, that doesn't mean you should go slinging arrows at deer in that range. You arrow will be moving significantly slower than what your used to, so get the confidence in your setup, then let your experience be the judge. Some thing could go wrong with even the closest of shots, so I dont have a yardage that I say " I wont shoot that far" but my comfortable range is 35 and under, the closer, the better!!!
 
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