Why don't yall 2TC?

[Red Beard]

Ordered this today. Going to give 2tc another try. This should solve my issue.

CGM Foot Loop | Custom Gear Modifica

Designed for the 2TC climber, this foot loop has a whole range of uses. It can be added to your Naider/Swaider set, can be used as a single step aider, can be added to your 2TC kit, or is a great self recovery tool to have in your pack should your other climbing method go south! Add our Sterling...

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I bet we're going to see some real neat stuff come out of this

 

[chason]

Have settled on 2TC as my first climbing method, honestly the first climb was easier than i expected. I hope to be proficient soon!

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[tarafrost]

Where could I get a Foot loop?

In any grocery store.....oh wait....nevermind!

 

[Jimmyfunk60]

Ordered this today. Going to give 2tc another try. This should solve my issue.

CGM Foot Loop | Custom Gear Modifica

Designed for the 2TC climber, this foot loop has a whole range of uses. It can be added to your Naider/Swaider set, can be used as a single step aider, can be added to your 2TC kit, or is a great self recovery tool to have in your pack should your other climbing method go south! Add our Sterling...

www.customgearmodifications.com

I ordered one too. I use bolts and pre sets primarily, but have been one sticking for unknown spots.. will be curious how this compares.. seems too cheap not to try since I have everything else… we have a few weeks of season left so I’ll give it a go if I get it in time.


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[TommyDee]

I ordered leg and foot loop as well. Committed to making this work, and willing to spend a bit more to support a custom vendor on the site, and will sell the bits I don’t need. 2 questions for you all the early adopters of this methodfrom an apprentice:

1. Branch-passing, which do you prefer and why?:

a Do you linesman on the footloop, and pass the main tether above the branch OR:

b. Do you have a prussic on your foot tether to clip in a 2nd bridge, or in my case the Australapin buckle might avoid me adding a bridge to the saddle.
C another way I’m not thinking of.

I’m using an old oplux tether for footloop, so I’m leaning towards b

2. How many of you are rappelling down vs shimmying down the tethers?


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[Red Beard]

How many of you are rappelling down vs shimmying down the tethers?

I shimmy!

 

[Samcirrus]

I ordered leg and foot loop as well. Committed to making this work, and willing to spend a bit more to support a custom vendor on the site, and will sell the bits I don’t need. 2 questions for you all the early adopters of this methodfrom an apprentice:

1. Branch-passing, which do you prefer and why?:

a Do you linesman on the footloop, and pass the main tether above the branch OR:

b. Do you have a prussic on your foot tether to clip in a 2nd bridge, or in my case the Australapin buckle might avoid me adding a bridge to the saddle.
C another way I’m not thinking of.

I’m using an old oplux tether for footloop, so I’m leaning towards b

2. How many of you are rappelling down vs shimmying down the tethers?


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B. without the prusik. Never a prusik. Lol A meech, distel or something else.
And there's no way to tie another rope/bridge (doesn't have to be adjustable) to the same loops your main bridge is on?
I rappel. For me the only extra is the length of rope difference than an 8' tether. I climb on my Fig 8 with a backup michoacan in ascend mode and rappel on it in rappel mode.

 

[TommyDee]

B. without the prusik. Never a prusik. Lol A meech, distel or something else.
And there's no way to tie another rope/bridge (doesn't have to be adjustable) to the same loops your main bridge is on?
I rappel. For me the only extra is the length of rope difference than an 8' tether. I climb on my Fig 8 with a backup michoacan in ascend mode and rappel on it in rappel mode.

I should have said friction, I use distel myself.

I got the old latitude 2 panel with the metal buckle belt option (vs rope). Regret it now, but at least I have a use for it!

If that’s too loud, yes I’ll add an amsteel short bridge to main loops.


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[Fireprojectile]

I'm interested to see how that works out for you. My biggest problem with my foot loop and my knaider and swaider has been them slipping off my foot

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Then try the Beal Air Step foot loop.

 

[Arkie]

I’m way late to this party and 300+ posts behind…

I’m looking at the 2TC kit from CGM that includes the leg strap, foot loop, tether/foot aider, etc..

Can someone point me in the direction of some videos on these items before I order? Going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off-season.


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[bowhuntr09]

I’m way late to this party and 300+ posts behind…

I’m looking at the 2TC kit from CGM that includes the leg strap, foot loop, tether/foot aider, etc..

Can someone point me in the direction of some videos on these items before I order? Going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off-season.


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[Samcirrus]

I’m way late to this party and 300+ posts behind…

I’m looking at the 2TC kit from CGM that includes the leg strap, foot loop, tether/foot aider, etc..

Can someone point me in the direction of some videos on these items before I order? Going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off-season.


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I'm not being snarky, but have you read through this whole thread? Theres some good pictures and videos throughout! As well as good ideas and techniques. Look for 2TC K.I.S.S too. MNFarmhunter will be putting out a video soon too.

 

[Samcirrus]

I’m way late to this party and 300+ posts behind…

I’m looking at the 2TC kit from CGM that includes the leg strap, foot loop, tether/foot aider, etc..

Can someone point me in the direction of some videos on these items before I order? Going to give 2TC a fair shake in the off-season.


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However those items are good and made well!

 

[Arkie]

Thank you.


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[Arkie]

I'm not being snarky, but have you read through this whole thread? Theres some good pictures and videos throughout! As well as good ideas and techniques. Look for 2TC K.I.S.S too. MNFarmhunter will be putting out a video soon too.

I’ve only skimmed through this one, but will read it in it’s entirety at some point lol.

I watched the KISS one on Rumble the other day, but haven’t seen part 2 come out yet.


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[MNFarmHunter]

I’ve only skimmed through this one, but will read it in it’s entirety at some point lol.

I watched the KISS one on Rumble the other day, but haven’t seen part 2 come out yet.


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That's because I haven't made it yet. Now that I've (hopefully) figured out an easy way to get videos off my iphone and onto my linux machine, I should be able to make a better looking video for part 2. The weather still looks good Sunday afternoon and should have the video posted Sunday night.

 

[Arkie]

Made it 150+ posts and 3 videos in before I broke down and bought the kit. There’s much worse things I can spend $98 on, haha.

[mention]MNFarmHunter [/mention] looking forward to part 2.


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[rswink]

My season ended with a lost doe. Now for 2 weeks off and will start learning 2TC for next year. Thanks for all the inspiration in this thread.

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[MNFarmHunter]

Part 2 of the series is posted in the other thread. It goes over 2TC climbing techniques. Once it warms up a little, I'll put together another video with alternative methods and passing a branch, etc.

 

[TommyDee]

version 0.1 experimental 2TC rappel rig I pieced together and actually demoed in the woods tonight. (I had an alpine butterfly tied below the gri gri and delta link was not upside down). Climbed a limbless slight leaning basketball maple with rough bark just to about 12 ft. Definitely set your tethers on the low side of the tree.

Used some REI accessory cord I had lying around for the long thigh loop prussic, and left the distel there to help as a stop knot. (I usually hunt from it, rappel with figure 8/auto block)

Took awhile to get the hang of it, and get the foot and thigh loops where I wanted them. By the end I was doing 1 foot per move, 2 moves a minute. Not very fast but worth it to avoid dragging sticks,especially since I had to crawl under jagger bushes to access this spot. Other than the grigri, was quiet. As others have said, any more than 1 foot moves , you’re making noise, using too much energy, putting too much slack in the system.

I wanted to stay in the grigri so I could rappel out of dodge if anything went wrong, but will use a tended friction hitch next time, then figure 8 rappel. (I always go back to this) the grigri always wanted to slide down when Unweighted, and noisy as heck.

The bits I picked up from [mention]always89y [/mention] worked great. Got the thigh loop and boot loop. I will experiment with and without these in the off-season, I’m thinking I won’t need thigh loop as I get better on smaller trees.

It was super smooth deploying the ROS from the top of the climb.
Changes will be as follows:

1. Lose the grigri, use the tended distel.
2. Learn to tie a beefier stop knot to hold the delta link, or a rubber washer.
3. Beef up the tether handles like [mention]Redbeard [/mention] setup, or just paracord the tenders.

Goal of this step was to see if this is viable for next season. I think with practice, it will be. Just need a hand ascender, and I’ll be srt preset/2TC next season.

Still pretty new here, so feel free to make other recommendations. Cheers.

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