So far I have only done basic testing (CRUZR XC size 2), have not even had it on a tree, so need lot's more testing. But what I keep finding is that the larger stiffer webbing on the CRUZR (bottom) really kind of dig's into legs, with the pleat open or closed. Maybe it is because I am hanging almost vertical (tether tied around beam in basement). When I find a combo that allows the mesh of the saddle to be more utilized (tight) it seems better, but could it be that there is "too much" mesh for my build? Not sure if I am making my point properly. Thinking also when I try this on a tree and the tether is ties at more eye (or even neck // chest) height it will be better, but I keep wondering if there is just more mesh in this saddle than I can fill up so to speak.