i was just making a friendly comment in reply to yours. i dont think people should stop creating things because their company put out a faulty product and failed. I dont want to see stagnation in the industry because some twat online (me) is raggin on product safety. If yrs down the road, beast/hawk/tethrd come out with safe, innovative equipment and build a reputation back up ill probably give it a try again. Im not gonna be a test dummy between now and then though. Rather sit in a summit viper filled with lead. I think a huge part of making me feel safe is building it here in the USA. Without getting political, i think its only going to get worse for the next 4 yrs. My hawk sticks were probably safe to use but the build quality was so shoddy i never strapped em to a tree.