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Option for climbing platform

gcr0003 said:
That’s what I’m asking. If you’re climbing a straight limbless tree of 18” then 2TC is going to do it easier, quieter and faster. Then you have more options for a platform too. You also don’t have to worry about it getting away from you or kicking out.
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I think done right it could be very useful and make climbing easier. I mean it is not difficult to stand in a double foot loop and move your tether up but it is harder than standing on a stand. And if done right it shouldn't be a big deal to navigate limbs either within reason.
 
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BTaylor said:
I think done right it could be very useful and make climbing easier. I mean it is not difficult to stand in a double foot loop and move your tether up but it is harder than standing on a stand. And if done right it should be a big deal to navigate limbs either within reason.
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That’s true, moving a tether up while standing on a platform is a lot easier. What type of progress per move are y’all getting? The one time I tried it I was having to push myself away from the tree while lifting my legs and I really could not get much per move.
 
gcr0003 said:
That’s true, moving a tether up while standing on a platform is a lot easier. What type of progress per move are y’all getting? The one time I tried it I was having to push myself away from the tree while lifting my legs and I really could not get much per move.
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Seems like you can accomplish the same thing with CGM double foot loops.. but since your feet are on the side of the tree, you could get a better push.
 
I'm not finding it very different than climbing with a climber at all. Way easier than a full hand climber stand actually. And I strap my platform to the tree at height without having to hang anything and then climb above it.

I can climb as high as I prefer and have a big platform at 10lbs. A Predator and 5 ONE sticks are 8lbs and get you a lesser max height and tiny platform . .5 and sticks is maybe 12.

I'm probably not proficient at 2TC, but find it takes more agility and for me is slower. Also, once you attach the platform at the base you don't have to manage two lines around the tree like you do with 2TC. 2TC is a great minimalist method for scout and hunts so long as the trees work. But if I have a tree in mind or an area where I have mainly straight trees with high limbs, and I plan to hunt from an elevated position, I'll go with the climbing platform.

There's also the advantage of being able to "walk around the tree" for those who do not strap their platform to the tree at height.

A LWHC top is 4lbs
 
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Plebe said:
I'm not finding it very different than climbing with a climber at all. Way easier than a full hand climber stand actually. And I strap my platform to the tree at height without having to hang anything and then climb above it. Also the advantages of stability over a the footloop method of 2tc.

I can climb as heigh as I prefer and have a big platform at 10lbs. A Predator and 5 ONE sticks are 8lbs and get you a lesser max height and tiny platform . .5 and sticks is maybe 12.

I'm probably not proficient at 2TC, but find it takes more agility and for me is slower. Also, once you attach the platform at the base you don't have to manage two lines around the tree like you do with 2TC. 2TC is a great minimalist method for scout and hunts so long as the trees work. But if I have a tree in mind or an area where I have mainly straight trees with heigh limbs, and I plan to hunt from an elevated position, I'll go with the climbing platform.

There's also the advantage of being able to "walk around the tree" for those who do not strap their platform to the tree at height.

A LWHC top is 4lbs
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Yea I guess my comparison was unfair since 2TC is now all I’m using for climbing so I already have some of those advantage over sticks. I agree from an ease of use and weight and bulk comparison to sticks there are benefits that the climber can provide.

One thing I didn’t think about with the climber is you could loosen the cable and angle the climber down a little for those that like a little more ergonomic placement of their feet.
 
gcr0003 said:
Yea I guess my comparison was unfair since 2TC is now all I’m using for climbing so I already have some of those advantage over sticks. I agree from an ease of use and weight and bulk comparison to sticks there are benefits that the climber can provide.

One thing I didn’t think about with the climber is you could loosen the cable and angle the climber down a little for those that like a little more ergonomic placement of their feet.
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The crossbar on Lone Wolf lower climbing stand assemblies makes a nice footrest for leaning (seems strong enough, lol) and you still maintain all the flat platform real estate for balanced maneuvering.

Since there are no (hang-on) treestand cables on the climbing platform, you have more useable foot room than those setups. A spreader or dual beam hang-on design for hybrid use could solve that. Folks have done the cable spreader mod on LW stands long ago, but I'd prefer to see that strength tested officially.
 
I’m in the same boat - climber bottom or platform. The climber would probably cut climb time by a minute or two on limbless trees, but equal on limb(s). The climber may need to be adjusted for taper, which also adds time.

The biggest advantage to a platform is size and packability, which for me trumps the climber.
 
those of you using a LWHC... how quiet is it?

I have a brand new one sitting in my basement that i traded for a backup mission. I watched some youtube vids to get it ready and the noise the dudes were making really turned me off the whole idea. The band was scraping the back of the tree really loud.

I usually dont mess with limbs so it seemed like a good idea but i never busted it out to hunt with.
 
PEEJAY said:
those of you using a LWHC... how quiet is it?

I have a brand new one sitting in my basement that i traded for a backup mission. I watched some youtube vids to get it ready and the noise the dudes were making really turned me off the whole idea. The band was scraping the back of the tree really loud.

I usually dont mess with limbs so it seemed like a good idea but i never busted it out to hunt with.
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If I was you I would not use it, way too loud.
PS: how much you want for it?
 
Would it be bad form to post a link to the patent? I think I found it.

Edit: This thing is bad ass. It solves the problem of getting around limbs. Wink wink.
 
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Owl74 said:

US20220339506A1 - Climbing apparatus and system - Google Patents

A climbing apparatus and system for climbing a columnar structure, including a pair of climbing apparatus, each of which includes an elongated vertical member with a pair of anchors to engage with the columnar structure, a fastening loop pivotally connected to the vertical member and which...
patents.google.com
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I don't see it, can't tell what the heck it does. Please remember, I am on the slow side, LOL.
I will wait for the video.
 
Owl74 said:
Here's a pdf of the patent with images.
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Yea I don’t know if that’s it but it interesting Nonetheless. It sounds like it is a climbing stick with a klems platform attached. It appears to use a rotating attaching bracket with straps similar to a climber. It also read (though not apparent in the picture) that the v brackets or anchors pivot down such that when you unweight the stick the brackets fall down, giving you more room between the stick and the tree, aiding in easier progression of the stick. Other than that it sounds like you’re using these sticks with platforms next to one another and slowly inch worming your way up the tree, transitioning from one foot to the other. Is that how y’all read it?
 
Yeah, I don't think this is it either now, and after looking at it, how would you get the lower "stick" above the bracket of the higher stick without reattaching it? Screen Shot 2022-12-14 at 7.00.02 PM.png
 
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