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Pack Modularity and Integration

cng said:
This seems perfect for saddle hunting to me. I wanted to make a chamber slider with pockets that I would slide out of my pack and hang in front of me, but this seems like a better approach.
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I didn't want a structured storage system, but if someone did...

Backpack Panel Insert®

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bowhunthard88 said:
Unfortunately, the level of detail translates to every aspect, not just packs hahaha!
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As an unorganized person I have some admiration and some fear for those with that level of OCD :tearsofjoy:

That said, I have taken a somewhat simpler approach to modularity. Basically I have 3 scenarios. 1. Quick hunt 2. Day hunt 3. Back packing.

I have a Kuiu Pro Frame
1. Quick hunt to day hunt
Load Hauler + Accessory Pouch
This may be my go to this year because of the simplicity, that is if I can make it work. The thought is bare necessities in the accessory pouch and hip pouches. Saddle, ropes, clothes, fix platform in between the load hauler. This would be my early season and lite set up which also allows me to haul a deer out. If I need extra room for small things I would add the lid from my 5500 LT bag.

2. quick hunt to day hunt
2300 Pro Bag
Is the alternative to the load hauler + pouch combo and what I used for part of last season. It’s a good size bag (I came from the venture 2300, so it’s almost identical but with more features) for day trips and has nice internal pockets for gear organization. It is still on the frame so packing out deer is still there. I end up not using the bag much and just lashing everything to the outside so I’m wondering if the load hauler will be simpler and accomplish the same thing with less bulk.

Day to week backpacking
5500 Pro LT pack with lid
This is my back packing pack. It’s nice and big to stuff a sleeping bag and other camp items in but made from a little lighter weight cordura. The lid gives me a little extra day storage and organization, while the main bag focuses on bulk storage. I’ve been pleased with this simple set up for weekend back packing trips but it could easily for a week trip. Sometimes it’s nice having a bigger back than you need. It makes putting stuff in it easy. Simply suck down the extra fabric and go.

All of the items can attach and work together on this frame so I might find something that works better as a hybrid. I may use the accessory pouch to organize some things that can be attached to any system. That way I’m not looking in new pockets each time for stuff. I’ll try to get some pictures of my set up in the near future for fun show and tell. Lol
 
Eliminating the lineman's belt out of the battle-belt setup. Although the concept was really cool, I've literally never used it... If I'm climbing, I always have a saddle on and I end up using the LB off of the saddle loops. Looking at possibly the Marsupial Lumbar Belt, as connection points to shoulder suspension would be most likely better, just need to see if my Claymore fits (even vs. odd)... I've come to really like the belt setup, with the shoulder suspension, for minimalist hunts!
 
Wayyyy too complicated for me. Early season fanny pack, late season fanny pack. I hate moving stuff around. Every time I do I forget stuff. Different strokes.

I would really like to try the k4 frame for those sort of endeavors but I can't justify the cost of switching over.
 
elk yinzer said:
Wayyyy too complicated for me. Early season fanny pack, late season fanny pack. I hate moving stuff around. Every time I do I forget stuff. Different strokes.

I would really like to try the k4 frame for those sort of endeavors but I can't justify the cost of switching over.
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I can't carry my late season layers in a fanny/lumbar pack... AND I can't wear them in because of distance, typically. LOL!
 
bowhunthard88 said:
I can't carry my late season layers in a fanny/lumbar pack... AND I can't wear them in because of distance, typically. LOL!
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Yeah I pack them on my .5. WIth a good suspension and back pad, it's not quite as comfy as my pack frame, but it's close enough. The big late season fanny pack holds gloves, boot warmers, neck gaiter, and muff though.
 
Updates (pretty much dialed now for the rest of this season and probably next, although the FHF Hydration Pack looks intriguing as a possible replacement for the Sherman Pocket):

- The K4 2200 bag is not big enough for my late season layers. I have switched back to the 3600 bag, and after the remainder of this season I may ponder eliminating the 2200.
- I am not a wide person, so I found the FHF Foundation Wings and side pouches impractical for me on my chest rig. I'm back to the direct shoulder harness to chest rig attachment.
- I found that a stabilization strap was beneficial for the bottom of the Sherman Pocket if I'm not attaching it to a lumbar belt.
- While I loved the HSG battle-belt setup, I found that the laser-cut "molle" was not suitable for load-bearing purposes and did not integrate solidly with a bunch of my buckles and attachments... I also never used the lineman's belt setup I had integrated into the belt, so no need for that. Without the "need" for the lineman's setup, I bought the Marsupial Lumbar Belt and their yoke system, BINGO!!!

Pics to follow.
 
Current chest rig setup with Sherman Pocket installed (front):
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Current chest rig setup with Sherman Pocket installed (back):
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Top/rear of chest rig shoulder harness showing Sherman Pocket attachments:
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Right side of chest rig "direct to harness" attachment:
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Left side of chest rig "direct to harness" attachment:
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Back of Sherman Pocket attached to chest rig harness showcasing the additional stabilization belt:
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Rear/bottom of chest rig and pocket showcasing the strap portion utilized for the Sherman Pocket stabilization strap:
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Front of lumbar belt setup with yoke installed:
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Back of lumbar belt setup with yoke installed:
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Yoke attachment to lumbar belt, and additional buckle for chest rig harness attachment in place of the yoke:
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Sherman Pocket attachment buckles added to the top of the yoke setup:
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bowhunthard88 said:
Eliminating the lineman's belt out of the battle-belt setup. Although the concept was really cool, I've literally never used it... If I'm climbing, I always have a saddle on and I end up using the LB off of the saddle loops. Looking at possibly the Marsupial Lumbar Belt, as connection points to shoulder suspension would be most likely better, just need to see if my Claymore fits (even vs. odd)... I've come to really like the belt setup, with the shoulder suspension, for minimalist hunts!
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You notice the belt ever get in way while saddle on? Or the belt on the K4?
 
elk yinzer said:
Yeah I pack them on my .5. WIth a good suspension and back pad, it's not quite as comfy as my pack frame, but it's close enough. The big late season fanny pack holds gloves, boot warmers, neck gaiter, and muff though.
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Can’t speak to the weight of your Kelty suspension, but some of the high end frames add very little weight to their respective suspension. A Kuiu Frame is 11oz. I’d have to pull the belt and shoulder straps off my K4, but the carbon stays are tiny and super light and I can’t imagine the cross bracing, squadron material, and strapping weighing all that much. The Seek Revo frame and suspension can be set up approaching 2lbs total. etc.

I think a frame will have an advantage in ergonomics and load distribution depending on body type, and load lift is simplified and more effective than other solutions.

Also, with a frame there’s no straps blowing around in the wind beneath the stand.

I know it seems redundant (adding a second rigid structure) but strapping a .5 to a lightweight frame has it’s upside, imo. Of course it’s more $$ to go that route.
 
bowhunthard88 said:
Front of lumbar belt setup with yoke installed:
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Back of lumbar belt setup with yoke installed:
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Yoke attachment to lumbar belt, and additional buckle for chest rig harness attachment in place of the yoke:
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Sherman Pocket attachment buckles added to the top of the yoke setup:
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Cool setup. Can the sherman pocket be incorporated in with the yoke and the belt?

Also who makes the pouches you have on the far left and right of the belt?
 
Andrew said:
Cool setup. Can the sherman pocket be incorporated in with the yoke and the belt?

Also who makes the pouches you have on the far left and right of the belt?
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Yes, it can! Some earlier posts/pics reflect the attachment along with one current one, although I'm now choosing to use Slik-Clips instead of the pictured Kifaru blocks.
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Those are my favorite "aftermarket" "non-hunting" pouches: ATS Tactical Slimline series.
 
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