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Pursuit platforms

raisins said:
in their defense, fiberglass reinforced nylon is tough stuff...simply calling it plastic seems a bit harsh

that stuff bends but i think to snap it would take some serious work and probably a tool or two!
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Plastic isn’t a derogatory term. It’s a very broad term for a bunch of different polymers. I hadn’t looked into what it was made from, regardless that deformation seems excessive but I may be wrong. Plastic or elastic deformation of polymers I don’t have a lot of experience with. I wonder if knowing they were deforming that platform elastically they determined the life cycle with that deformation. The one video the guy clearly showed the deformation was plastic, meaning some of the deformation was permanent.
 
gcr0003 said:
Plastic isn’t a derogatory term. It’s a very broad term for a bunch of different polymers. I hadn’t looked into what it was made from, regardless that deformation seems excessive but I may be wrong. Plastic or elastic deformation of polymers I don’t have a lot of experience with. I wonder if knowing they were deforming that platform elastically they determined the life cycle with that deformation. The one video the guy clearly showed the deformation was plastic, meaning some of the deformation was permanent.
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It looks as though its going to stay and if flipped and does the same thing you will eventually get fractures leading to failure. However, I would love to see added cross bracing and see how that improves. When I get mine a may even do some some reinforcing. I have access to a few 3D printers. I think this could be done without adding significant weight also.
 
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RMcDonald7 said:
Thank you. And your Welcome.

I really wanted to like this platform too.




What parts of WV you from? I'm in Bridgeport.
I also would like to see pics of your platform with weight on the corners and not bending. It seems like the Prototypes are stronger than the first runs.
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I’m in Princeton. I’m kinda on my own. But, I should be able to make that happen this weekend.
 
gcr0003 said:
Could you take a picture or video of yours under weight then? It’s hard for me to believe that tiny strut isn’t bending for you as well after seeing the videos of them bending? I’m 205 lb though so if it isn’t bending for you then I’d have confidence it wouldn’t bend under my weight. Thanks.

I appreciate the feedback from someone who actually has the platform, unlike @Plebe who seems to just be making assumptions with no hands on experience.
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I’ll get it this weekend for you.
After watching Ronald’s video, I’m starting to wander if it might be the difference in which side for the heavy weights. I’ll see when I get to the pics and take one for both angles.
I don’t know if that’s the case. But, if the first video was on the steep side. Ronald’s was on the steep side. And mine turns out the same on the steep side, we might be on to something.
 
Got mine in today and immediately put it on a backyard pine. I would say it’s probably a 22” or better diameter tree down by the base. I’m about 185lbs and yes the platform flexes but it’s rock solid and I couldn’t get it to budge using normal to above average side tension on it. Although I was just using my battlebelt with a climb rated lineman loops and raptor buckle, it held me fine. The best thing is how light and quiet it is l. No “gonging-donging” sound at all and super light. Paired with a 2TC climbing system this will be very hard to beat for an ultra mobile set up. Another thing I noticed right off the bat, it’s going to be super warm on your toes for long sits during the rut compared to anything else.
 

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anyone try this with an amsteel attachment method (tourniquet or trucker's hitch)? i'm wondering if the strap is needed to keep it from flipping......hopefully super tight amsteel will do the same
 
I put mine on the tree this morning at o-dark-thirty so no pictures but I was pleasantly surprised. I weighed myself @244# in my skivvies this morning and then proceeded add boots and a saddle and try it out and while there was some flexing and rocking on the persimmon tree I was using it didn't buckle and deform like I was worried about. I used both sides and found both to be quite comfortable and the traction was pretty legit even with wet boots from the heavy dew. I'm not a huge fan of the OCB, this is my first time using one, and may give the tourniquet method a shot if I can find a suitable torsion bar laying around. The persimmon tree I was on isn't overly large so I'm hoping for better stability on a larger tree, that will be tomorrow morning's test.
 
krub6b said:
I put mine on the tree this morning at o-dark-thirty so no pictures but I was pleasantly surprised. I weighed myself @244# in my skivvies this morning and then proceeded add boots and a saddle and try it out and while there was some flexing and rocking on the persimmon tree I was using it didn't buckle and deform like I was worried about. I used both sides and found both to be quite comfortable and the traction was pretty legit even with wet boots from the heavy dew. I'm not a huge fan of the OCB, this is my first time using one, and may give the tourniquet method a shot if I can find a suitable torsion bar laying around. The persimmon tree I was on isn't overly large so I'm hoping for better stability on a larger tree, that will be tomorrow morning's test.
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How's this thing with extreme rotation (counter clockwise for a rightie) to shoot your 3 o clock area? Got enough area to be stable in that position?
 
WV Mountaineer said:
I’ll get it this weekend for you.
After watching Ronald’s video, I’m starting to wander if it might be the difference in which side for the heavy weights. I’ll see when I get to the pics and take one for both angles.
I don’t know if that’s the case. But, if the first video was on the steep side. Ronald’s was on the steep side. And mine turns out the same on the steep side, we might be on to something.
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I'll set it back up this evening and flip it over a few times to see if the steeper side has better support.
 
I know nothing about polymers and injection. But if some are buckling and others are not could it be the mixture of polymer?
I ordered 12 Treehopper steps. 11 of them weighed 5oz. One of them weighed 3oz. A big difference as a %.
I contacted Mark and asked is the 3oz one safe? He replaced it and I returned the 3oz one.
 
raisins said:
How's this thing with extreme rotation (counter clockwise for a rightie) to shoot your 3 o clock area? Got enough area to be stable in that position?
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I haven't tried that much rotation, I'll have to report back to have actual experience with that, however I would imagine a step on each side will make that shot much easier to make.
 
GeoFish said:
I know nothing about polymers and injection. But if some are buckling and others are not could it be the mixture of polymer?
I ordered 12 Treehopper steps. 11 of them weighed 5oz. One of them weighed 3oz. A big difference as a %.
I contacted Mark and asked is the 3oz one safe? He replaced it and I returned the 3oz one.
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I can weigh mine tonight too and see if there is a weight differential.
 
RMcDonald7 said:
lot 1
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That's interesting, I'm wondering if there were some inconsistencies just in lot 1 or if the injection molder they are using may not be consistent enough to warrant the weight weighting they gave these platforms. Have you reached out to Pursuit about yours?
 
I have not... I will contact them this evening. not sure what they will do ...
 
GeoFish said:
I know nothing about polymers and injection. But if some are buckling and others are not could it be the mixture of polymer?
I ordered 12 Treehopper steps. 11 of them weighed 5oz. One of them weighed 3oz. A big difference as a %.
I contacted Mark and asked is the 3oz one safe? He replaced it and I returned the 3oz one.
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there are two generations of those....earlier generation had a few breaks (I think) and they redesigned...i had both and the color was slightly different (one more grayish, one had some brown)
 
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