I'm cracking up at this & my wife is looking at me like I just lost my marbles.Now we just need to figure out how to measure the force between joints of the strap...and we have our first SaddleHunter.Com "Feats of Strength" contest. Airing of grievances will take place afterwards.
Happy Festivus!
We started looking into a lever for the OCB - aka KnuckleBuster - but dropped it for now because we didn't think the buckle could handle that much additional torque.I'm thinking that to get an OCB to gain equal a ratchet we'd need at least these design changes to the readily avaialable ones:
1) The lever that takes up and cranks on the last bit of slack would need to take up more.
2) The lever would probably have to be longer for more leverage to do that
3) I'm sure it's not "possible" and I don't want to get a headache thinking about it.. but if you could pull on the tag in the same direction as you are throwing the lever that wold be a big deal too.
I've been googling for something that has one or more of these points... but you end up with something that weighs close to or more than a ratchet.
All that said, I'm a big fan of the Erickson OCB. Works very well for securing a lone wolf hand climber, but I have to say the ratchet is superior.
yup, i think that as the energy increases, materials might have to beef up...We started looking into a lever for the OCB - aka KnuckleBuster - but dropped it for now because we didn't think the buckle could handle that much additional torque.
That there is awesome!!! LolTo be fair, you're talking about the Beast that broke the Predator positioning aid. I was born in the eye of a hurricane, and was suckled by a wild boar. My great, great grandmomma was a Chrokee princess that jumped off a waterfall...
And lived.
I really like the ocb buckle however I had this happen today while camming it over. Idon't eat wheaties. This one was from eastern woods outdoors. Not knocking them.....just showing what can happen if you force them to much. The rivet failed and bent the U shaped bar. Can anybody recommend one that's a little beefier? I've also broken ratchet style before in the past. Guess i just have gorilla mits
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Agreed....once it's cammed and set its going no where. I bought two of them from you and really like them. Manufactures defect is no fault of yours.But it does confirm what I suspected- the buckle will break while camming it over, not randomly while already set up.
Can’t believe no one has mentioned individual size in this discussion.Lots easier for Nutterbuster to get his buckle tight enough for him than say Eric S.That ain’t quite the same animal.What we talking about a buck fifty vs 280 or so guys.I know the buckle want get tight enough for me with my Ameristeps but i had to try it.
This is a great point! I think the same principle applies to things like the primal steps platform. Most guys got theirs rock solid, but I was pulling away from the tree a lot at 250lbs.Can’t believe no one has mentioned individual size in this discussion.Lots easier for Nutterbuster to get his buckle tight enough for him than say Eric S.That ain’t quite the same animal.What we talking about a buck fifty vs 280 or so guys.I know the buckle want get tight enough for me with my Ameristeps but i had to try it.
I wish the buckle would stay for me.I like the simplicity but it ain’t gonna happen.I am 6’2” and about 280 and can pull on it like a gorilla but it just wont get tight enough not to shift around a little especially on a pine tree.And if you hunt in my part of the world you gonna hunt in pines a lot.
This is not surprising. 2 small rivets are doing all the heavy lifting. I've never had one break on me though. That sucks.I really like the ocb buckle however I had this happen today while camming it over. Idon't eat wheaties. This one was from eastern woods outdoors. Not knocking them.....just showing what can happen if you force them to much. The rivet failed and bent the U shaped bar. Can anybody recommend one that's a little beefier? I've also broken ratchet style before in the past. Guess i just have gorilla mits
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The Erickson OCB is a much better beast... there is a thread here, I'll see if I can find it.I really like the ocb buckle however I had this happen today while camming it over. Idon't eat wheaties. This one was from eastern woods outdoors. Not knocking them.....just showing what can happen if you force them to much. The rivet failed and bent the U shaped bar. Can anybody recommend one that's a little beefier? I've also broken ratchet style before in the past. Guess i just have gorilla mits
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