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ruger 10/22 for truck camper shell camping self defense

TNbowhunter said:
I’d pick a Ruger Charger with a suppressor over a 10/22 with no can. Same action, same overall length, but one is whisper quiet. You could also add a binary trigger to make it darn near full auto. A better option, though, is pepper spray for close quarters (and bears) and then turn to a .45, AR pistol, .300 BLK or something like that.
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wouldn't you pepper spray yourself as well inside a truck cap?
 
If you are planning for a self defense situation, have the proper tool. I mean damn, "I want to be prepared in case someone tries to do me harm, I better pack a spatula". Carry and adequate handgun that you have trained with until you are more than proficient with it. Give a verbal warning and if you do have to pull it, do work until the work is finished. And get a carry license if you dont already have one.
 
.22 in a self defense life or death scenario, it's like taking a knife to a gun fight.

Brother, if you are going to trust you or any of your loved ones lives in a worst case scenario event to a .22, I'll say a prayer for you. Law enforcement don't carry .22s as their primary for a reason. Adult security blanket or not, if you have to deploy and use that weapon, you MAY be lucky to hit with a round or 2, and I would certainly like more stopping power than that.
 
The likelihood of needing the weapon is only slightly higher than winning the mega millions. That being said there are 2 general pieces of advice that come to mind every time this question is asked 1) there is no replacement for displacement , true in muscle cars and large caliber weapons. 2) practice and efficiency with chosen weapon is crucial. Most gunfight are ended by the first round on target and the only round that ends a threat like Hollywood wants you to think is the one that disturbs the central nervous system. Look at the data real life FBI data in the Evans Marshal Guide to resolve questions about true handgun stopping of human threats. Statistics also show the majority of instances that a human takes another humans life in civilian situations with a handgun is 7’ or less. I assume that’s because it’s usually at physical altercation or home invasion scenario. Truth is even the most trained best armed men in the world don’t stop threats with a single shot using much more weapon than a 22lr with any regularity. All that rambling said there is some good advice in this thread. Use what you have and be efficient. I’m not a SEAL nor a SWAT member so I lean towards the 45, 357 and 12 ga. The 223/5.56 is definitely a man stopper as well. In response to the the fear of collateral damage to the neighbors house belief use a shotgun with number 4 lead shot or 4 buckshot. The effectiveness of that small a shot in up close in high stress situations is why the judge was created. A 410 with 11/16 oz high velocity #4 inside of 20 feet has as comparable energy to a 44mag and the 44 mag always worked for Harry Callahan. Anyway it with not penetrate 2 layers of 5/8” Sheetrock much less injure your neighbor.
 
cci makes some good rounds. I like those segmented ones and they make another hot one that will blow stuff up pretty good. I think 22lr is fine for a defense weapon as long as you have a full mag. I can dump about 5 22 shots for every 2 9mm and still be just as accurate. Ask a gator how a 22 in the dome feels. I dont know about having time to switch to your 45 if the 22 aint workin though.

Only thing i would say about the 10/22 is the length might make it difficult. I would get a pistol if i was wanting to be in a camper or a tent. I bought a Taurus tx22 last year for plinkin and that thing shoots better than any .22 glock, ruger, walther, etc i have ever shot. Ive put about 1k rounds through it with all kinds of different ammo and cant get it to stop. it eats everything. $260 for the regular model with a threaded barrel and maybe $100 more for the comp model with the optics mount.
 
My uncle who is retired USMC carries a 22 for some odd reason. He says it holds more, less recoil, quicker and more shots on target, and lastly: 2 shots to the dome will turn you off just as quick as any other bullet. I’m not recommending a 22 handgun. Just sharing what my uncle does haha
 
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Thinking about this you'd be basically in a can't miss situation, max 2 yard shot? I'm confident you can hit a head or chest easy at that distance but you might be so close that they could grab/shove the barrel.
 
Every time a caliber discussion starts on the internet, a baby .22lr dies. Shoot what satisfies you.

Firearms are a can of worms (and I'm very pro 2A and don't believe I will ever own enough of them, saying that). You have to factor in your state's view of Castle Doctrine, whether it applies to you in a camper/vehicle/tent on public ground, whether you're visiting another state with different views, etc. You'd be well-advised to carry specific insurance (USCCA/GOA) in case you end up having to use it.

I wouldn't advertise there's a firearm in your vehicle - it just prepares anyone who reads it.

Realistically, just changing your proposed hang tag to say "Caution, Hunter Inside" would probably do the job. If you want backup, whatever YOU'RE comfortable with. A .22 would work just fine in a pinch. Subsonic would do your ears a favor.
 
i would still gravitate towards starting with that 45 if thats one of my options though. Its kind of silly to worry about your ears over your life in my opinion. Thats the last thing i would care about if i knew i really had to kill someone/something. if my ears are of concern there's probably not a good enough reason to shoot. i leave the 22 by my wifes end of the bed and keep a gp100 and 12ga with #4 on my side. p365 9mm for my carry.

Its a personal preference though. I have seen enough data to show a 22lr will stop a human with the right shot placement and it def helps with accuracy and follow up shots on target.
 
@raisins Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet but do you have the ability to mount a light to the weapon? I’ve had limited instances where I’ve had to use a weapon at night but I’m thankful I’ve had a light source on the weapon. You can’t hit what you can’t see and identify.
With a long rifle it may prove to be difficult to operate it effectively(aim, charge, clear malfunctions) and hold a light in the other.
 
For your application I'd endorse the prior suggestion of a pistol with a light on it. Maybe backed up with a shotgun with a light on it. For me the salient factor is space, rather than noise. I'd rather be able to bring my muzzle to bear at whatever direction I need, without being able to catch my muzzle on a blanket or gear or whatnot.

If you're shooting for your life, any theoretical hearing loss is a distant second place concern to surviving the encounter in the first place. Don't hamstring your survivability for the sake of hearing protection.

Brief comment on 9mm for self-defense.... a friend of mine (in the 90s) centerpunched a home invader with a 9mm loaded with Silvertips, which were his dad's (police) duty ammo. They didn't open, BG survived and got smoked a week or so later by a liquor store clerk with a .44. Because of stories like this I've never been a fan of the ".380 Magnum". That said... the data on modern ammo, like the Speer G2 and the 147gr Hornady load the FBI went to, is compelling. What little I've read regarding real-world shootings with these loads has been encouraging. I know there has been an absolute pile of shootings over the last 20 years with .40S&W, which has generally performed well. Point is, you really can't compare modern, premium duty ammunition with previous generations of JHP ammo. A 9mm with Speer G2 will (likely) perform better than a .45 with Winchester 'white box' FMJs or a 10mm with hard-cast. Whatever you carry, get the good stuff.
 
Iron_llama said:
For your application I'd endorse the prior suggestion of a pistol with a light on it. Maybe backed up with a shotgun with a light on it. For me the salient factor is space, rather than noise. I'd rather be able to bring my muzzle to bear at whatever direction I need, without being able to catch my muzzle on a blanket or gear or whatnot.

If you're shooting for your life, any theoretical hearing loss is a distant second place concern to surviving the encounter in the first place. Don't hamstring your survivability for the sake of hearing protection.

Brief comment on 9mm for self-defense.... a friend of mine (in the 90s) centerpunched a home invader with a 9mm loaded with Silvertips, which were his dad's (police) duty ammo. They didn't open, BG survived and got smoked a week or so later by a liquor store clerk with a .44. Because of stories like this I've never been a fan of the ".380 Magnum". That said... the data on modern ammo, like the Speer G2 and the 147gr Hornady load the FBI went to, is compelling. What little I've read regarding real-world shootings with these loads has been encouraging. I know there has been an absolute pile of shootings over the last 20 years with .40S&W, which has generally performed well. Point is, you really can't compare modern, premium duty ammunition with previous generations of JHP ammo. A 9mm with Speer G2 will (likely) perform better than a .45 with Winchester 'white box' FMJs or a 10mm with hard-cast. Whatever you carry, get the good stuff.
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You'd think a guy would take a little break after eating a 9mm. Meet mr. 44!
 
if im not carrying i like my 357mag with some hand loaded hotties or buffalo bore (out of my 6" bbl i think its pushin 800ft-lbs). 1 and done. i've dabbled with a 44 and its a wee bit too much to go have fun with when i want to shoot it, at least with the loads my buddy had in it. buffalo bore in the 357 can absolutely rip and i can still go shoot 38 wadcutters all day and not empty my wallet or bruise my hand.
 
You've already got the .45. Invest in a threaded barrel and suppressor if you're that concerned about your hearing.
 
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