The JRB Climbing Method

[_Dario]

It terms of getting to the tree and deploying the system, did you try this yet? Curious how it pulls over the crotch and if everything stays put as it should.

have you done Ddrt? If so, do you prefer this method over that?

 

[gcr0003]

It terms of getting to the tree and deploying the system, did you try this yet? Curious how it pulls over the crotch and if everything stays put as it should.

have you done Ddrt? If so, do you prefer this method over that?

The only issue I had deploying was hitting the crotch that I wanted it to be in, which isn’t unique to this method. It pulled over the crotch no problem but I only did this once and I’m sure having the hitch on there could get caught.

If you’re referring to MRS then I would say this method I like better for the simple reason that you get more per move, similar to SRT. I’m not sold that this is any better than SRT for me. It does utilize small diameter rope which would pack well but it doesn’t solve the getting on the perfect crotch issue like I think SRT and a base anchor would. Still playing with methods and I hope to have more rope to play with soon.

 

[FrankNess14]

[mention]gcr0003 [/mention] why Blake’s hitches? Like them better than your normal Michoacan?


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[gcr0003]

[mention]gcr0003 [/mention] why Blake’s hitches? Like them better than your normal Michoacan?


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I was using Michoacáns I couldn’t tell you why I said Blake’s hitch. I removed the first video because I said so many backwards things.9

 

[FrankNess14]

I was using Michoacáns I couldn’t tell you why I said Blake’s hitch. I removed the first video because I said so many backwards things.9

I was studying on the pics trying to figure out how that was a Blake’s! Lol


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[gcr0003]

I was studying on the pics trying to figure out how that was a Blake’s! Lol


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even after I took the video out I still left Blake’s hitch in my description. I guess my brain isn’t working today. I updated it. Mich. hitch is what I used lol.

 

[_Dario]

The only issue I had deploying was hitting the crotch that I wanted it to be in, which isn’t unique to this method. It pulled over the crotch no problem but I only did this once and I’m sure having the hitch on there could get caught.

If you’re referring to MRS then I would say this method I like better for the simple reason that you get more per move, similar to SRT. I’m not sold that this is any better than SRT for me. It does utilize small diameter rope which would pack well but it doesn’t solve the getting on the perfect crotch issue like I think SRT and a base anchor would. Still playing with methods and I hope to have more rope to play with soon.

did you mention an another thread what your SRT rig is for ultra tech?

 

[gcr0003]

I don’t have a SRT set up at the moment. I have climbed on two tandem Michoacán’s before on this 35’ piece of rappel rope I have.

did you mention an another thread what your SRT rig is for ultra tech?

 

[mtsrunner]

If your Michoacáns are slipping try almost dressing the knots before your sit back in the saddle. I can do this fluidly by applying downward pressure in the order below. I never sit back in my saddle until I’m sure they won’t slip.

 

[gcr0003]

If your Michoacáns are slipping try almost dressing the knots before your sit back in the saddle. I can do this fluidly by applying downward pressure in the order below. I never sit back in my saddle until I’m sure they won’t slip.

This is a good too and is also about what I do! I found if you pull perpendicular to the rope it has the same affect at dressing the hitch.

 

[John RB]

Hey man, excellent work. And great feedback for me to process. Some comments:
1. You said Blake's hitches but I think you meant Michoacán.
2. I don't see a backup. I always have a backup system for my friction hitches which i call the "best friend". It's especially important when you're testing something out. There are several options but my preference is to tie in my redundant bridge to the Garda. Do u have this?
3. I don't like the beaners you used for the Garda. These work, or similar D Style from Liberty mountain. The shopping list is posted in my FB group. Fusion Climb Supreme II Aluminum Oval-Shape Carabiner https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MC9I5G8/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_CYYJZCDQREPC712FDBZV
4. How did you connect the webbing to the Garda? Did you use my Bull Hitch variant described in the YouTube?

 

[gcr0003]

Hey man, excellent work. And great feedback for me to process. Some comments:
1. You said Blake's hitches but I think you meant Michoacán.
2. I don't see a backup. I always have a backup system for my friction hitches which i call the "best friend". It's especially important when you're testing something out. There are several options but my preference is to tie in my redundant bridge to the Garda. Do u have this?
3. I don't like the beaners you used for the Garda. These work, or similar D Style from Liberty mountain. The shopping list is posted in my FB group. Fusion Climb Supreme II Aluminum Oval-Shape Carabiner https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MC9I5G8/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_CYYJZCDQREPC712FDBZV
4. How did you connect the webbing to the Garda? Did you use my Bull Hitch variant described in the YouTube?

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even after I took the video out I still left Blake’s hitch in my description. I guess my brain isn’t working today. I updated it. Mich. hitch is what I used lol.

2. I don’t see the benefit of a second bridge tied to the Garda. If your main hitches fail that Garda hitch isn’t holding you up. It’s one fault tolerant just like the other climbing methods. I have seen your original video where you are using 2 hitches on each line for a total 4 and that’s not something
3. using what I have, they worked fine. I actually like that hitch it’s extremely useful in this application
4. I simply girth hitched the webbing to the biners. I used a buckle for the foot loop. this also worked fine.

I was getting about 3 foot per move. That was 15’ in 5 moves which is pretty efficient for rope climbing.

 

[John RB]

More comments: i never thought about mentioning it in the videos but the Garda does reorient itself by spinning almost a half turn after ya engage and load it. And so ya can disregard that or step into the loop after ya engage it. Also if you're using a STIFF rope, it's more difficult to advance the Garda. But super smooth on 8mm Oplux. A bit more work on my 9.5 Super Static2. Regardless, as ya learn it, ya get better at lifting your leg while pulling up the slack.

If you had a friction hitch that slipped, then you probably didn't set it properly, removing slack when ya tied and dressed it.... or the cord is too stiff for the Rope diameter.

I am already thinking of utilizing this feedback to make a new and better Garda video. Much appreciated.

 

[gcr0003]

More comments: i never thought about mentioning it in the videos but the Garda does reorient itself by spinning almost a half turn after ya engage and load it. And so ya can disregard that or step into the loop after ya engage it. Also if you're using a STIFF rope, it's more difficult to advance the Garda. But super smooth on 8mm Oplux. A bit more work on my 9.5 Super Static2. Regardless, as ya learn it, ya get better at lifting your leg while pulling up the slack.

If you had a friction hitch that slipped, then you probably didn't set it properly, removing slack when ya tied and dressed it.... or the cord is too stiff for the Rope diameter.

I am already thinking of utilizing this feedback to make a new and better Garda video. Much appreciated.

Yea I knew it was a little tougher progressing the Garda because of the stiffness of the rope. It was not impossible but like you said it just took some finesse to get use to it and more flexible rope would progress easier.

 

[John RB]

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2. I don’t see the benefit of a second bridge tied to the Garda. If your main hitches fail that Garda hitch isn’t holding you up. It’s one fault tolerant just like the other climbing methods. I have seen your original video where you are using 2 hitches on each line for a total 4 and that’s not something
3. using what I have, they worked fine. I actually like that hitch it’s extremely useful in this application
4. I simply girth hitched the webbing to the biners. I used a buckle for the foot loop. this also worked fine.

I was getting about 3 foot per move. That was 15’ in 5 moves which is pretty efficient for rope climbing.

Ya don't need a 2nd set of hitches but u must have a 2nd independent tie in to the rope. Without it, it's not actually my method as i have never climbed without it.
1. I can take out a hunting knife and slice through BOTH my friction hitches, simulating a catastrophic failure and my Garda hitch will catch me every time, with no doubt. Go to minute 2 and note how i rig it:

2. The Garda with a girth hitch is NOT reliable. Go to minute 2 and see exactly how i tie this bull hitch variant. It's extremely reliable. Figuring out this detail took me significant time, and delayed me significantly cuz i needed to climb on it a LOT before i released it.

 

[gcr0003]

Ya don't need a 2nd set of hitches but u must have a 2nd independent tie in to the rope. Without it, it's not actually my method as i have never climbed without it.
1. I can take out a hunting knife and slice through BOTH my friction hitches, simulating a catastrophic failure and my Garda hitch will catch me every time, with no doubt. Go to minute 2 and note how i rig it:

2. The Garda with a girth hitch is NOT reliable. Go to minute 2 and see exactly how i tie this bull hitch variant. It's extremely reliable. Figuring out this detail took me significant time, and delayed me significantly cuz i needed to climb on it a LOT before i released it.

I’ll concede that having the backup bridge to the Garda would be better than nothing at all and a simply thing to add.

Im interested to see what happens if one hitch fails. In this scenario would the Garda still catch if only one rope is weighted? I might play around at ground level and test it out.

 

[John RB]

It terms of getting to the tree and deploying the system, did you try this yet? Curious how it pulls over the crotch and if everything stays put as it should.

have you done Ddrt? If so, do you prefer this method over that?

The hitches can't get stuck in the crotch because they are clipped into the end of the rope. Look at the first couple minutes of this. The clip is for both the paracord or throwline and the hitch.

 

[Lycomingflyfisher]

I’ll concede that having the backup bridge to the Garda would be better than nothing at all and a simply thing to add.

Im interested to see what happens if one hitch fails. In this scenario would the Garda still catch if only one rope is weighted? I might play around at ground level and test it out.

The garda would still be holding both ropes, at least from what I have seen. To me that is what is most appealing about this climbing method. I am just unsure of diving into this close to hunting season.

 

[John RB]

The garda would still be holding both ropes, at least from what I have seen. To me that is what is most appealing about this climbing method. I am just unsure of diving into this close to hunting season.

yes... agree... i get a lot out of these conversations, cuz i better understand what questions people have. i will try to do a video where i demonstrate simulated failures to show how the system reacts AND how ya recover from them.

 

[gcr0003]

Second go at it. had fun trying to record and narrate. I just enjoy sharing the climb and thought process. Safety issues y’all may knock me on.
1. Poachers knots for secondary bridge
2. Opening main caribiner at height
3. unhooking Garda to put figure 8 on
4. Some other obscure safety thing I missed