Weighing "Mobile" Tree Climbing Options (A Points Based System)

[gcr0003]

Hazard for all methods of climbing a tree: being high enough off the ground to be subject to the forces of gravity, in a way that could cause life altering injury or death.

Score for all methods: minimum 4.999/5.




It is not proper framing to suggest that being tethered in while climbing makes a person significantly safer than using a linemans belt. Not in the context of hunting and climbing trees to do it. Not in context of thousands of people improperly trained and unqualified to climb. It’s irresponsible to suggest this.

I think we should make a separate thread with all the specific hazards we have come across while climbing all the different methods. I think it could be helpful to let people know that there are real risks to climbing. Simply saying that climbing is dangerous is what manufacturers do and they do a poor job of it. It also overlooks the specific risks to each method. Lots of people get into new climbing methods thinking it’s going to be straight forward and easy and find themself staring down the barrel of something dangerous. Maybe a good excel list for a different topic.

 

[NMSbowhunter]

All of it is risky. The only guarantee in life is that if you are currently alive, you will die. I would chance to guess that the #1 most risky thing that hunters are doing is driving too and from their hunting destination. Every car or truck or semi you meet on the road is only about 6 feet from a head on collision. No matter how well you drive or how careful you are, 50% of the equation is totally out of your hands every time you meet someone. I'd love to see the statistical probability of death or serious bodily injury per mile driven weighted against number of miles driven to and from our hunting locations throughout the course of the year.

 

[gcr0003]

Is there any way we could leave the safety debate for another one of the 10 threads Kyles already has on the subject and get back to scoring and talking about climbing methods? I’m happy to remove it from the list if we can move on.

 

[kyler1945]

Is there any way we could leave the safety debate for another one of the 10 threads Kyles already has on the subject and get back to scoring and talking about climbing methods? I’m happy to remove it from the list if we can move on.

I like this option!

 

[GeoFish]

OK, their are alot of other methods that can add complexity to the question. Also how high you climb, what step distance do you take.
I like 15" step distance, 12 steps = 15 feet. You take 18" steps, 12 steps = 18 feet.
How about sticks or steps with aiders?
Combining climbing methods, sticks with steps or a little 2TC.

 

[Plebe]

Hazard for all methods of climbing a tree: being high enough off the ground to be subject to the forces of gravity, in a way that could cause life altering injury or death.

Score for all methods: minimum 4.999/5.

It is not proper framing to suggest that being tethered in while climbing makes a person significantly safer than using a linemans belt. Not in the context of hunting and climbing trees to do it. Not in context of thousands of people improperly trained and unqualified to climb. It’s irresponsible to suggest this.

 

[kyler1945]

Haha see!

4.99999/5 for risk, not “safety”.

I’m going have a drink and play with my kid and her squeaky toys.

 

[gcr0003]

I think this is fair criticism and can be taken the wrong way. Deleted until 2.0z

 

[Plebe]

I think this is fair criticism and can be taken the wrong way. Deleted until 2.0z

Even though he's a responsible dad, I think Kyle's going to consume 2oz pretty quickly.

 

[kbetts]

i m not offended

what you wrote assumes what I wrote

I’m trained to find the faulty assumptions in arguments

I don’t know how you think in general but I know your argument is wrong and why

you are assuming that being into X has to detract from Y, that is not the case except in specific circumstances that do not necessarily hold here

"Trained". Good pup.

 

[tailgunner]

I might be a neandertal but still think most people should stay grounded.your average Joe isnt even compitant enough to clean thier own gutters without breaking à leg.but climbing trees with wepons?hey....lets throw à couple back first.

 

[tailgunner]

No realy.... lets throw a couple back

 

[Crawdaddy4]

Is there any way we could leave the safety debate for another one of the 10 threads Kyles already has on the subject and get back to scoring and talking about climbing methods? I’m happy to remove it from the list if we can move on.

Maybe just objectively list the known risks associated with each climbing method and leave the subjective numerical rating or nomenclature (more/less risky or safe) off? It would be nice for a newbie to be aware of these inherent risks when considering new or alternative climbing methods.