Bullman Pioneer steps

[raisins]

What about lack of civil rights and forced labor in China? Lack of transparency? That’s why I won’t support companies who source China labor

And they steal everyone's intellectual property like weasels.

 

[raisins]

I think we are beating a dead horse. If you want to buy China products go ahead. I cannot think of a product that I purchased that was made in China that turned out to be a good product. My statements are based on my experiences. I have never had a problem with a American made tree stand or climbing stick and I started tree stand hunting in 1983. I have purchased some tree stand that were made in China that never left my backyard, because they were returned to the store because they we of such low quality and they had defects.

I said Kong Carabiners did not have a recall to my knowledge, not all Kong products. I checked that out before I purchased the carabiners.

I said China has the reputation for the worst quality in the world.
A survey by Statista – a statistics and market research firm based in Hamburg, Germany, surveyed more than 43,000 people in 52 nations on who was the most respected nations, in terms of the production of goods—or, where the phrase “Made In (fill in the blank)” has the most positive image. And China came in dead last.

Made In Where? The Countries With The Best Reputations For Producing Quality

A new survey by Statista shows how people in different nations view products and goods made in other countries. Who has the highest reputation for quality and design? Who has the most disappointing reputation?

www.forbes.com

Just ask 10 friends how they view products made in China as to quality!

Interesting that "Made in Japan" used to be a slur, but now many of their products are excellent. Knives, guitars, stereo equipment, cars, etc. Also, "Made in Taiwan" was a slur, but the best Spyderco knives made (better than USA) are made there.

 

[Plebe]

And they steal everyone's intellectual property rights like weasels.

What rights? Ethics is uncool. Thats the problem.

 

[tailgunner]

them bullmen steps look pretty dope thoe

 

[mtsrunner]

I just saw this thread and wanted to clarify that there are no hard feelings here. I did share my ‘button runner’ idea with the owner of Bullman about a year and a half ago. He said he had been thinking of trying to develop an Amsteel attachment. I like what he has done with the buckle termination. It’s a lot easier to make than what I do and probably easier for a novice user to understand and deploy. It’s all good.

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[Zero One Actual]

But Kuiu First Lite and Sitka. Wait. Patagonia and Mountain Hardware. Wait. Samsung and iPhones. Wait your television. Your tablets. Your medications. Ohh boy. At least my router and internet components for me to get on this site are made in…..

 

[JSEXTON23]

I just saw this thread and wanted to clarify that there are no hard feelings here. I did share my ‘button runner’ idea with the owner of Bullman about a year and a half ago. He said he had been thinking of trying to develop an Amsteel attachment. I like what he has done with the buckle termination. It’s a lot easier to make than what I do and probably easier for a novice user to understand and deploy. It’s all good.

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I believe this method was also shared with DanO. Not sure of the timeline Bullman was working on this, but I have a prototype Amsteel squirrel step from DanO. I believe it was also determined that the slotted squirrel step was a better candidate for amsteel modification.

 

[mtsrunner]

I believe this method was also shared with DanO. Not sure of the timeline Bullman was working on this, but I have a prototype Amsteel squirrel step from DanO. I believe it was also determined that the slotted squirrel step was a better candidate for amsteel modification.

Yeah, I’m not sure of the timeline, either. I think I was emailing Bullman and sent him a link to this video around 3/2020. I know we also had that group message with DanO in October 2020, but I think I was late to the party on that one.
Anyway, I’m always happy to tinker around with this stuff and hopefully contribute something useful occasionally.


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[raisins]

Any ideas on methods to keep the step from sliding around on the amsteel daisy chain? I'm tying knots in the daisy chain on either side of the step to keep the step in place. However, I hate to tie overhand knots in amsteel. I've considered inserting the step into the splice while making the daisy chain Or some sort of fancy girth hitch of the daisy chain around the step.

 

[Vtbow]

Any ideas on methods to keep the step from sliding around on the amsteel daisy chain? I'm tying knots in the daisy chain on either side of the step to keep the step in place. However, I hate to tie overhand knots in amsteel. I've considered inserting the step into the splice while making the daisy chain Or some sort of fancy girth hitch of the daisy chain around the step.

clove hitch through the slot(around the front). Would allow you to slide it if needed(though slowly)without taking it off the rope as well...

 

[DaveH]

I've been considering Pioneer steps vs Treehopper steps so have been trying to follow the various attachment methods that you guys have tried using Amsteel. Thanks for sharing all your ideas.

Instead of tying overhand knots that theoretically weaken Amsteel, what do you think about using either a loop of lightweight cordage or a small plastic zip tie to help keep the step located on the Amsteel? Just thread it through the middle of the Amsteel and through the slot in the step. I'm not sure about the zip tie, but the cordage shouldn't compromise the integrity of the Amsteel. Thoughts?

 

[Weldabeast]

I've been considering Pioneer steps vs Treehopper steps so have been trying to follow the various attachment methods that you guys have tried using Amsteel. Thanks for sharing all your ideas.

Instead of tying overhand knots that theoretically weaken Amsteel, what do you think about using either a loop of lightweight cordage or a small plastic zip tie to help keep the step located on the Amsteel? Just thread it through the middle of the Amsteel and through the slot in the step. I'm not sure about the zip tie, but the cordage shouldn't compromise the integrity of the Amsteel. Thoughts?

It would be pretty simple to tie some Paracord sliding stopper knots. I have never tried so maybe there is a little slippage due to slick amsteel but back band Paracord prusik hold pretty good on amsteel bridge
Ranger bead/Celtic stopper whatever u wanna call it should handle that task if it doesn't slip on the amsteel too bad. Tie as tight as possible for more holding power

 

[DaveH]

What I was proposing was simply to pass a single loop of cordage through the weave of the Amsteel and through the slot in the step which would effectively prevent the step from moving.

 

[GeoFish]

I am not tying any knots. I have a finished step and one in progress in the attached.
I started with 16 feet of 1/8" Amsteel. Measured 36" from one end, this is the end I am running through the step. I made two daisy loops at the end, one for the truckers hitch and one to wrap over the buckle. The rest is a full burry back to the silver mark on the finished step.

 

[raisins]

I've been considering Pioneer steps vs Treehopper steps so have been trying to follow the various attachment methods that you guys have tried using Amsteel. Thanks for sharing all your ideas.

Instead of tying overhand knots that theoretically weaken Amsteel, what do you think about using either a loop of lightweight cordage or a small plastic zip tie to help keep the step located on the Amsteel? Just thread it through the middle of the Amsteel and through the slot in the step. I'm not sure about the zip tie, but the cordage shouldn't compromise the integrity of the Amsteel. Thoughts?

That would work. The overhand does weaken it, but the amsteel is very strong and I don't consider step strap as a life support function, since I'm always tethered and using a lineman's as I climb. The overhand knots I tied are so tight after a season of use, that I'm stuck with them unless I cut the daisy chain off (which is a down side). I'd try to custom size the splice where the step will go so that if you do the cord thing on either side that it is tight against the step with cord pieces slid as far away as they'll go.

 

[Mschmeiske]

Did anyone contact Bullman about the sharp edges on the steps? I’d consider checking some out if they fixed that, but I don’t want to have to deal with it myself.

 

[rswink]

It is what stopped me from trying them.

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[DaveH]

Did anyone contact Bullman about the sharp edges on the steps? I’d consider checking some out if they fixed that, but I don’t want to have to deal with it myself.

I just received a set of the Pioneer steps and they do have some sharp edges as previously described by others. I'm only going to concern myself with the slot for the strap. I have a set of needle files and have used the round and rectangular files to easily dress up the inside edges of the slot. It takes only about two minutes of work per step to easily eliminate the sharp edges using the files. Raisins mentioned trying a Dremel to accomplish this task and that he wasn't especially happy with the results. I'll give the Dremel a go when I work on the next step just to see which method I prefer.

In any case, I certainly wouldn't let a few sharp edges stop me from buying the Pioneer steps.

 

[raisins]

I just received a set of the Pioneer steps and they do have some sharp edges as previously described by others. I'm only going to concern myself with the slot for the strap. I have a set of needle files and have used the round and rectangular files to easily dress up the inside edges of the slot. It takes only about two minutes of work per step to easily eliminate the sharp edges using the files. Raisins mentioned trying a Dremel to accomplish this task and that he wasn't especially happy with the results. I'll give the Dremel a go when I work on the next step just to see which method I prefer.

In any case, I certainly wouldn't let a few sharp edges stop me from buying the Pioneer steps.

I just didn't have the best head and was not taking my time. I think with a properly sized abrasive piece, good light, my reading glasses, and nothing else to do that it would turn out a lot better.

I agree that it isn't a big deal to knock that edge down. But I think the most important area is the top bend (that's where a lot of pressure will be on the strap or amsteel) and those tight bends are the hardest spot to get to.

 

[bigcat93]

I just received a set of the Pioneer steps and they do have some sharp edges as previously described by others. I'm only going to concern myself with the slot for the strap. I have a set of needle files and have used the round and rectangular files to easily dress up the inside edges of the slot. It takes only about two minutes of work per step to easily eliminate the sharp edges using the files. Raisins mentioned trying a Dremel to accomplish this task and that he wasn't especially happy with the results. I'll give the Dremel a go when I work on the next step just to see which method I prefer.

In any case, I certainly wouldn't let a few sharp edges stop me from buying the Pioneer steps.

with the 2 that I ordered, it gives instructions about dulling those edges