tailgunner
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My dudes relax.we just b.s.in
Let us know how they do on a tree---ThanksI just bought 2 of these new Bullman Pioneer steps and they arrived today.
I just weighed one and it does weight 3.07 oz (close to as advertised).
However, the edges of the slot that would touch the daisy chain or strap have not been chamfered and are sharp enough that if you pushed and rubbed a finger you could probably cut yourself. This isn't good over time if the same spot on your attachment method hits those edges over and over. I could probably sit down while watching a movie and cut through a strap with it by working the strap.
I'll chamfer mine and try my method and let everyone know how it goes. I can save 1.5 pounds if I move to them, but they'll have to work really well to have me spend the money and move away from the Treehopper steps.
I did not have a AA triglide, used the other brand EWO sells. A little heavy at 510 grains or 1.16 oz.
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I love the step method using daisy chain trucker hitch method. The downside is that it is slow. His traditional daisy chain method shown on the video would work if you are very careful about stepping straight down, but I'm just not a fan. The Cranford strap on steps were a little loose also and they do not handle accidental side pressure well.
Interesting...thats the same issue Dan at EWO had with the first batch of Squirrel steps. he then recalled and replaced all of them and chamfered moving forward...guess bullman wasn't paying as much attention as we thought!I just bought 2 of these new Bullman Pioneer steps and they arrived today.
I just weighed one and it does weight 3.07 oz (close to as advertised).
However, the edges of the slot that would touch the daisy chain or strap have not been chamfered and are sharp enough that if you pushed and rubbed a finger you could probably cut yourself. This isn't good over time if the same spot on your attachment method hits those edges over and over. I could probably sit down while watching a movie and cut through a strap with it by working the strap.
I'll chamfer mine and try my method and let everyone know how it goes. I can save 1.5 pounds if I move to them, but they'll have to work really well to have me spend the money and move away from the Treehopper steps.
And here I thought this would be the year of no new gear or methods for me.
I'm new to the truckers hitch concept, and I'm intrigued. Can the slide be repositioned mid daisy chain so you wrap there after pulling the chain thorugh the end loop and work it back around the tree? Do I have that right? I'm trying to picture how that slide would be accessible to wrap with once you've put tension on the daisy chain. Might be another case of a need for a video. Please direct me if one exists.
Not sure yet, I don't have the triglides and will probably try it first time around without (just wrapping back onto the step to test for ability to handle side load and overall stability). But I'll keep you posted here.
@GeoFish has a post upstream here maybe you saw where he has the daisy chain and triglide with a treehopper step and he said it worked with the trucker's hitch. With the shape of that triglide, with the flared edges sticking out, then you should be able to pull the trucker's hitch tight and then get a few tucks between the triglide and the tree.
Maybe he will chime in on this.
RetractionE-mail them to find out.
At $11.49 per step with buckle, I would think they are made off shore.
Off Shore is a city in China.
But if you use ink and write China on it it will explode......uh oh I just blew up the threadRecr
Retraction
Made in Cincinnati Ohio!
I tried wrapping around the triglide and it seemed to work OK. This was done at ground level with only one step.
instead of wrapping, I put one loop around the triglide. This seems to work since the truckers hitch got all of the slack out of the Amsteel.
But if you use ink and write China on it it will explode......uh oh I just blew up the thread
What carabiners do you use? I ask because there are only 2 companies that still manufacture their carabiners here in the USADon't know what I was thinking.
China metal never breaks or bends.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2015/global-manufacturing-company-recalls-api-outdoors-tree-stands
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2016/Global-Manufacturing-Company-Recalls-API-Outdoors-Tree-Stands/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2006/Hunting-Tree-Stands-Recalled-for-Collapse-Hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2006/full-body-safety-harnesses-recalled-for-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2011/hunter-safety-system-recalls-carabiners-due-to-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2013/rivers-edge-recalls-hunters-tree-stands-due-to-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2015/Hunters-Tree-Stands-Recalled-by-Primal-Vantage/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2021/A...ecalls-Climbing-Treestands-Due-to-Fall-Hazard
Don't know what I was thinking.
China metal never breaks or bends.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2015/global-manufacturing-company-recalls-api-outdoors-tree-stands
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2016/Global-Manufacturing-Company-Recalls-API-Outdoors-Tree-Stands/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2006/Hunting-Tree-Stands-Recalled-for-Collapse-Hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2006/full-body-safety-harnesses-recalled-for-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2011/hunter-safety-system-recalls-carabiners-due-to-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/recalls/2013/rivers-edge-recalls-hunters-tree-stands-due-to-fall-hazard/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2015/Hunters-Tree-Stands-Recalled-by-Primal-Vantage/
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2021/A...ecalls-Climbing-Treestands-Due-to-Fall-Hazard
thanks for posting this! I know I sound like a virtue signaling sissy to half of ya by being anti China hunting products
What carabiners do you use? I ask because there are only 2 companies that still manufacture their carabiners here in the USA
I use Petzl, which I believe are made in France still.
Which companies are still in the USA (or at least Europe)?
The only 2 USA made carabiner manufacturers are SMC (Seattle Manufacturing Corporation) and Rock ExoticaI use Petzl, which I believe are made in France still.
Which companies are still in the USA (or at least Europe)?