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Don't use Rage Chisel Points with twisted tip!!

Garrymny said:
Again, the spin caused by air flowing over the fletching stops on impact. No air flow. The Chisel tip with the twist will then cause the rotation as it goes through the hide flesh etc
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Ever think of fletching with a left helical if your going to go into that criticism

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Garrymny said:
Again, the spin caused by air flowing over the fletching stops on impact. No air flow. The Chisel tip with the twist will then cause the rotation as it goes through the hide flesh etc
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Why do single bevel broadheads destroy deer and penetrate well, but are spinning the entire time?
 
Blinginpse said:
Ever think of fletching with a left helical if your going to go into that criticism

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I just don't think the turning, spinning is helpful after impact. Might be good in flight, but on impact I think the Turning would impair penetration. I'm just giving a theory, nothing's been tested. But it does seem like a good explanation. I'm guessing if you took a twisted Chisel point, and regular razor point rage, everything else being equal, and shot them into ballistic gel, you will find the Chisel point gas much less penetration than the razor tip rage. It's the only way to verify my theory, but I have no time or desire to conduct the test. I'm just using the razor tips from now on.
 
Garrymny said:
I just don't think the turning, spinning is helpful after impact. Might be good in flight, but on impact I think the Turning would impair penetration. I'm just giving a theory, nothing's been tested. But it does seem like a good explanation. I'm guessing if you took a twisted Chisel point, and regular razor point rage, everything else being equal, and shot them into ballistic gel, you will find the Chisel point gas much less penetration than the razor tip rage. It's the only way to verify my theory, but I have no time or desire to conduct the test. I'm just using the razor tips from now on.
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Buddy u smokin tween em ears. Overthinkin lol

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Blinginpse said:
Buddy u smokin tween em ears. Overthinkin lol

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Yeah I know. This just bothered me alot since the day it happened. Like I said I am perplexed as to how I can put three rages into the chest of a small bucks, two at only ten steps and end up having to kill it with a knife! And upon dressing it find one lung fully intact, the other had three holes in it. The other deer I've shot with the razor tip rages were complete pass throughs and the deer dropped within my site. So this lead me to try to figure out what was wrong with the chisel tip rage. I'm glad nobody else so far has experienced the same problem.
 
Garrymny said:
Yeah I know. This just bothered me alot since the day it happened. Like I said I am perplexed as to how I can put three rages into the chest of a small bucks, two at only ten steps and end up having to kill it with a knife! And upon dressing it find one lung fully intact, the other had three holes in it. The other deer I've shot with the razor tip rages were complete pass throughs and the deer dropped within my site. So this lead me to try to figure out what was wrong with the chisel tip rage. I'm glad nobody else so far has experienced the same problem.
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U aint shootin a Mathews are ya

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SaddleUpPartner! said:
NAP Spitfire cut on contact, best mechanical out there. The last two I shot with them were total pass throughs, very strong blood trails as well.
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I used Spitfires for years not the cut on cantact ones. Spitfires are great for broadside shots but not for quartering away. Lost a buck I shot quartering away got about an inch of penetration. Saw the buck a few days later and he was back chasing a doe . I just don't like them anymore.
 
It's amazing how you can shoot any broadhead in the world and look at the entry to the exit and the head will have spun all the way through the deer because of the spin caused by the fletchings in flight. But only rage chisel tips goes against physics and stops the arrow from turning and then turns their self through a deer. You can shoot a deer with a field tip and it will still rotate through a deer from the inertia caused by the helical of the blade fletching.
 
Here is a bear I took yesterday with the 100gr 2 blade chisel pts, straight down shot from 25 feet which resulted in a complete pass thru. He ran his last 70yds with only a single lung being hit. You guys are getting way too deep in the physics of arrow fletchings and rotation, what ever happened to "KISS"? I say get back to basics and stick with taking high percentage shots and putting the arrow where it's supposed to go.
 

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A lot of people including myself have shot mechanicals as a replacement to tuning the bow. On a bow that is a little out of tune it will shoot great with mechanicals or field points. It’s penetration at close range will be severely limited. It will actually penetrate better at 20 yards than it will at 20 feet because by then the arrow is stabilized and what energy it has left is all going in the same direction. Just something to think about.
 
EricS said:
A lot of people including myself have shot mechanicals as a replacement to tuning the bow. On a bow that is a little out of tune it will shoot great with mechanicals or field points. It’s penetration at close range will be severely limited. It will actually penetrate better at 20 yards than it will at 20 feet because by then the arrow is stabilized and what energy it has left is all going in the same direction. Just something to think about.
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I agree. I feel this is a tuning issue with the bow , not the broadhead. The OP made a post earlier in this thread that clued me off. He stated that he shot fixed heads and they didn't hit where his field points did. So this tells me his bow isn't tuned proper.

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I won't shoot my bow unless it's tuned. I carry 3 different types of broadheads Rage, Slick Tricks, and Ramcats. They all shoot great from 10 yards to 50 yards . I shot them at those yardage to test their accuracy. I shoot 25 yards and in while hunting . I can shoot farther but choose not to.
 
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