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Knot advice for rappel/tether

Gorvai

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Hey guys my sterling c-iv canyon rope came in today and I'm wondering what kind of knot I should put to make a loop end for my silver not-carabiner thingie to hook through. I've also got some 1.8mm dynaglide throwline to pull it down with after I'm back on sweet earth. I tried Google but she was largely unhelpful.
 

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Figure 8 or a scaffold knot. Watch videos on how to do it correctly and then tie it and untie until you feel you are an expert at it. Test it at ground level first.
 

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Funny. My canyon arrives tomorrow and I was looking into the same thing. It seems a scaffold knot is the most popular.
 
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Fl Canopy Stalker

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Hey guys my sterling c-iv canyon rope came in today and I'm wondering what kind of knot I should put to make a loop end for my silver not-carabiner thingie to hook through. I've also got some 1.8mm dynaglide throwline to pull it down with after I'm back on sweet earth. I tried Google but she was largely unhelpful.
Figure 8 on a bite
 

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I would do scaffold and skip poachers. The scaffold is just a 2 wrap poachers and if tied wrong in the most common way it is, then it turns into a poachers and you are okay. Really, the best is probably a figure 8 on a bight with a ranger band to keep the rope loop tight so the quick link doesn't fall off. The figure 8 is a stronger knot and also is not always trying to tighten and tighten itself even when not needed.
 

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I like the Bull Hitch !
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Are you tying a bight (figure 8, overhand, etc) and then the bull hitch or just a bull hitch with a tag end? I can't see from your pic. The bull hitch is a twisted girth hitch commonly used on jacket and backpack cords to keep from losing them. I wouldn't use it unless the loop was already secure on its own.
 

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Are you tying a bight (figure 8, overhand, etc) and then the bull hitch or just a bull hitch with a tag end? I can't see from your pic. The bull hitch is a twisted girth hitch commonly used on jacket and backpack cords to keep from losing them. I wouldn't use it unless the loop was already secure on its own.
Looks like he only used the bull hitch to me with castration bands to “secure the tag ends”?
 

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Just the Bull Hitch with a nice sized tag end.
I have junked that C-IV rope in a month and a half already. I've rappelled over a hundred times with that sucker and the Bull Hitch has never moved!

I use baby zip ties on a lot of my knots and tag-ends and hitches to keep them dressed or from flapping around...
Zoom in on this next picture and check out all of the zip ties.

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I tied a figure 8 on my rappel rope and run the other 30-35 ft’ through the hole and use dyna/carabiner to pull it down after. Not to steal the thead, but why don’t more people do that like we do with a tether? It’s just a little longer.
 

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^^^ If you climb with your rappel rope (I don't) you'd have to pull all that rope through the girth hitch any time you pass over a limb. That would get old...
 

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Just the Bull Hitch with a nice sized tag end.
I have junked that C-IV rope in a month and a half already. I've rappelled over a hundred times with that sucker and the Bull Hitch has never moved!

I use baby zip ties on a lot of my knots and tag-ends and hitches to keep them dressed or from flapping around...
Zoom in on this next picture and check out all of the zip ties.

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I see it now.. they looked like castration bands in the other pic, which is why I ended with a question Mark.
I was wondering how that canyon rope held up... the bull hitch never moved? That’s pretty cool. As long as it’s weighted it should act similar to a girth hitch so I can’t say I am surprised, it’s just not a hitch I would have thought to use in that application.
 

phatkaw

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Take a close look at how I usually try to run my zip ties.
It's a little clumsy to do, but if you install them 'backwards' it puts the head in the Screenshot_20210604-235907_Gallery.jpgScreenshot_20210604-235907_Gallery.jpgcleavage of the ropes...
 
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