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Saddle Death… Stay safe out there.
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Once you have more than 1000 subscribers, you get paid by you tube for videos. The more views you get the more money per video… free lolHe sure makes a lot of money selling those free YouTube videos and forum/Facebook posts with all the info you could ever need in them.
What kind of saddle was it? I heard different things but I was just wondering.
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yep....people are multimillionaires off youtube alone.....many videos get more views than the most popular shows on TV
As somebody with a monetized channel almost double JRB's...he's making 10s and 10s of dollars...
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Nutter you have like 12 full length videos with more than a 1000 views and several shorts (which don’t monetize)…. Even though you have 1.5k more subscribers, it’s video views that set your monetary amount. Your 22wmr pig hunting video probably brings in a lot more money than Amos first duck hunt right?
Sorry bud but Upchurch you are not
Oh yeah, I'm small potatoes for sure and he's even smaller potatoes. Not sure what you're trying to say?Nutter you have like 12 full length videos with more than a 1000 views and several shorts (which don’t monetize)…. Even though you have 1.5k more subscribers, it’s video views that set your monetary amount. Your 22wmr pig hunting video probably brings in a lot more money than Amos first duck hunt right?
Sorry bud but Upchurch you are not
My most viewed video is sitting at almost 80k views. His biggest hit is 19k.
A couple of people have posted that he's in it for the money. I'm just pointing out that there ain't no money in adsense for his channel.
THP's biggest video has 1.6 million views. Assuming they have an average RPM that nets them $4-6k tops.
I doubt they're rolling in it, even with sponsorships from OnX and the state of Georgia and whatever.
None of the saddle hunting youtubers are making enough money to be doing it for the money.
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And, just for the record, I have 88 videos that have cleared 1,000 views, and 13 that have cleared 10,000. Yes, i took time out of my day to count.
I'm the most famous redneck in Stockton, AL...goshdarnit.
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Lol…Oh yeah, I'm small potatoes for sure and he's even smaller potatoes. Not sure what you're trying to say?
My most viewed video is sitting at almost 80k views. His biggest hit is 19k.
A couple of people have posted that he's in it for the money. I'm just pointing out that there ain't no money in adsense for his channel.
THP's biggest video has 1.6 million views. Assuming they have an average RPM that nets them $4-6k tops.
I doubt they're rolling in it, even with sponsorships from OnX and the state of Georgia and whatever.
None of the saddle hunting youtubers are making enough money to be doing it for the money.
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And, just for the record, I have 88 videos that have cleared 1,000 views, and 13 that have cleared 10,000. Yes, i took time out of my day to count.
I'm the most famous redneck in Stockton, AL...goshdarnit.
Thanks for the update… your mass following was why I was saying we needed to get you down here for our saddle meet up
BigB
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Nice personal attack and on topic by the way for someone who was done..….. Almost starting to sound like AT around here.
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I just think VT thinks advanced rope climbing should be left to experts and not taught over the internet
wvfarrier
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I ALWAYS keep an "escape" rope attached to me and the tree. Its just Amsteel with knots every 12". Its attached to the tree and then has a ropeman attsched to a carabiner. Ive practiced with it by walking my walking my way upside down and using it to right myself (under my wifes supervision and with the kids giant trampoline under me)
He's on here and he can defend himself if he wants to. While I maybe wouldn't be as harsh, we all know John RB likes to hear his own name. It's fine, he's making a name for himself, but with power comes responsibility. In my personal opinion he seems to be responsible, if a bit sales-pitchy at times. The self rescue video for example, was a good thing to release. It came packaged with a bit of a "I'll be your martyr for the cause" post saying he was missing out on opening day to film instead. Self serving/community serving, a mix of both. Seems like the guys trying to make some money off of something he loves, and provide info at the same time. American dream and all that.
Kyler1945 is somewhat the opposite, to me he seems knowledgeable, but also has limited filter. He rubs some people the wrong way because he's not always sugar coating it when he's calling you an idiot. I know, because I've been that idiot. Likely still will be some times. Reminds me of talking with experienced paramedics, they've seen some things, and don't have time for your BS when you could hurt yourself them, or your patient.
Brocky (and a whole host of others, but I read one of his threads most recently) is a great example of helping and putting up with a lot of dummies (again, I include myself in said group) asking repetitive questions, but seems to do it in a more patient manner.
At the end of the day I believe all 3 of these dudes have positive intentions. Apologies to the three of you for that somewhat reductive take, I'm sure you're all much more nuanced blends of excellent and arsehole when people actually get to know you. If you don't like the tone or the name dropping, then do your best to focus on the facts they're presenting, or move on and consultant different resource.
Ropes ARE dangerous. Hunting is dangerous, climbing trees is dangerous, shooting bows is dangerous, living is dangerous. Let's keep trying to keep each other safe. I know I was a dumb newbie that didn't hurt himself because people told me I was doing things wrong. I am not arrogant enough to think that's completely in the rear view for me either. Well, most of the time. That's the point of this thread, in my opinion. Knowledge is power, and informed decisions are the only decisions.
At the risk of a kumbaya drum circle retort... Thanks to the three of you (and everyone else) for the work you do helping us all be safe and successful
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I’ve been quiet on all this, but this just seems fishy as hell to me.
If you were suicidal and I handed you a saddle and all possible ropes with the stipulation that you had to stay in the saddle, you couldn’t wrap a rope around your neck, you had to stay no more than 6 feet off the ground connected to the tree and your saddle and you couldn’t stab yourself I dare say you could NOT kill yourself.
If you were suicidal and I handed you a saddle and all possible ropes with the stipulation that you had to stay in the saddle, you couldn’t wrap a rope around your neck, you had to stay no more than 6 feet off the ground connected to the tree and your saddle and you couldn’t stab yourself I dare say you could NOT kill yourself.
Hunting Roots Podcast: 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story on Apple Podcasts
Show Hunting Roots Podcast, Ep 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story - Sep 28, 2022
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tracker12
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Two things can get you hurt climbing trees during a hunt. One a fall and two getting stuck in a suspension. Stay tied in and one should be taken care of. Most people don't plan for number two.
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I’ve been quiet on all this, but this just seems fishy as hell to me.
If you were suicidal and I handed you a saddle and all possible ropes with the stipulation that you had to stay in the saddle, you couldn’t wrap a rope around your neck, you had to stay no more than 6 feet off the ground connected to the tree and your saddle and you couldn’t stab yourself I dare say you could NOT kill yourself.
Hunting Roots Podcast: 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story on Apple Podcasts
Show Hunting Roots Podcast, Ep 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story - Sep 28, 2022podcasts.apple.com
agree. Something is fishy about this whole deal and I ain’t buying what’s being sold.
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One thing that always strikes me about many of the climbing methods that seem to be catching on/mainstream. Some seam awfully complicated. I'm not knocking one method over another, but some of these, especially the rope climbing methods, just seem like they're asking for trouble for most novices. I for one couldn't imagine using most of the rope climbing techniques in the dark, when I'm half asleep on a morning hunt.
All of these methods, regardless, need practice and understanding of the gear you're using but I feel like we as a community need to take a step back and think about what we're promoting and or doing. Most of us are not rock climbers, mountain climbers or arborist. Most just want to climb into a tree and hunt, doing so safely, using the easiest, most fail proof system we can. Yes, climbing into trees is inherently dangerous and we all accept that risk when we do so. But I feel that overly complicated systems and pushing those said systems to new comers, etc is just asking for trouble.
We have been climbing with lock ons, ladders and climbers forever. There was a time when any type of safety gear was non existant. I'm sure accidents were plenty, we just never heard about them because we didn't have the internet to broadcast such incidents. All treestand companies eventually were required to have a harness in the box with stands and treestand safety was pushed heavily. Id be willing to bet we as a whole are much safer today than ever. But there are always going to be accidents. Some don't wear their harnesses in stands to this day. Some wear old harnesses that need replaced, old ropes, etc. We will never eliminate accidents simply because... well... we're human and do whatever the hell we want to. Then there are the freak situations that no one can prepare for. Do everything right and it still results in an accident.
I for one think we need to keep climbing methods simple for the average guy and also talk about self rescue techniques as much as the methods we use. Again, most of us are not arborist, or recreational climbers to begin with. Its a big ask to expect people to become one of these things to hunt out of a saddle. Thats just the reality. I see too many newbie questions on various channels from guys asking about gear in October every year that gives me pause, then the resulting answers make me cringe
All of these methods, regardless, need practice and understanding of the gear you're using but I feel like we as a community need to take a step back and think about what we're promoting and or doing. Most of us are not rock climbers, mountain climbers or arborist. Most just want to climb into a tree and hunt, doing so safely, using the easiest, most fail proof system we can. Yes, climbing into trees is inherently dangerous and we all accept that risk when we do so. But I feel that overly complicated systems and pushing those said systems to new comers, etc is just asking for trouble.
We have been climbing with lock ons, ladders and climbers forever. There was a time when any type of safety gear was non existant. I'm sure accidents were plenty, we just never heard about them because we didn't have the internet to broadcast such incidents. All treestand companies eventually were required to have a harness in the box with stands and treestand safety was pushed heavily. Id be willing to bet we as a whole are much safer today than ever. But there are always going to be accidents. Some don't wear their harnesses in stands to this day. Some wear old harnesses that need replaced, old ropes, etc. We will never eliminate accidents simply because... well... we're human and do whatever the hell we want to. Then there are the freak situations that no one can prepare for. Do everything right and it still results in an accident.
I for one think we need to keep climbing methods simple for the average guy and also talk about self rescue techniques as much as the methods we use. Again, most of us are not arborist, or recreational climbers to begin with. Its a big ask to expect people to become one of these things to hunt out of a saddle. Thats just the reality. I see too many newbie questions on various channels from guys asking about gear in October every year that gives me pause, then the resulting answers make me cringe
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Fishy for sureI’ve been quiet on all this, but this just seems fishy as hell to me.
If you were suicidal and I handed you a saddle and all possible ropes with the stipulation that you had to stay in the saddle, you couldn’t wrap a rope around your neck, you had to stay no more than 6 feet off the ground connected to the tree and your saddle and you couldn’t stab yourself I dare say you could NOT kill yourself.
Hunting Roots Podcast: 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story on Apple Podcasts
Show Hunting Roots Podcast, Ep 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story - Sep 28, 2022podcasts.apple.com
I’ve been quiet on all this, but this just seems fishy as hell to me.
If you were suicidal and I handed you a saddle and all possible ropes with the stipulation that you had to stay in the saddle, you couldn’t wrap a rope around your neck, you had to stay no more than 6 feet off the ground connected to the tree and your saddle and you couldn’t stab yourself I dare say you could NOT kill yourself.
Hunting Roots Podcast: 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story on Apple Podcasts
Show Hunting Roots Podcast, Ep 6-Feet Off the Ground: The Tragic Dane Purcell Saddle Hunting Story - Sep 28, 2022podcasts.apple.com
@dalton916 - if you spend the time to listen to a medical doctor (and educator) on suspension trauma, I doubt you'll maintain this assertion. He researched the phenomenon, including prior medical experiments, deaths, case histories, and autopsies to produce his medical paper on suspension trauma. All it takes is too little motion (hanging passively) with your blood pooling in your legs when your leg straps are cinched tight, and it causes you to faint. Then, because you can't "fall down" like if you fainted when standing on the ground, your circulation doesn't improve and multiple consequences rapidly ensue. If you want to know more about it, here's a cross-link to my previous post on this:
Suspension Trauma Revisited - How Much Do You Know About It?
I offer the following educational video about suspension trauma for anyone who wants to know more. Anyone climbing trees should have basic knowledge about what it is, how quickly it can overcome a person, what to do if suspended without the ability to descend, and how to handle a victim that is...
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