The difference with here vs YouTube is there's a back and forth here. Stupid ideas generally get checked, quickly. I know because I've been on both sides of those exchanges. YouTube, however, you have to search for differing opinions, the monetization algorithm favors clickbait/extreme/risky/out there/cutting edge/stupid stuff so there's more of it there with less guard rails.
Just one dummy's opinion though.
I just can't work out how hanging upside down was so rapidly lethal for him. 20 minutes is a very short amount of time. There are many examples of people being upside down for hours on end.
Including:
a 70 year old hunter who was upside down for two days in a treestand harness:
Hunter Hung Upside-Down From Treestand for Two Days | Grand View Outdoors
An Oregon hunter fell from his treestand and hung upside-down before two hunters heard his cries for help. The most dangerous part was the rescue.www.grandviewoutdoors.com
A roller coaster full of folks in Belgium all being upside down for 90 minutes straight with no issues:
Riders of Belgian roller coaster stuck upside down for 1 1/2 ...https://apnews.com › article
Many stories of cavers inverted for over a day
David Blaine hung upside down from his ankles in front of hundreds of people for 60 hours with short breaks for medical checks
Magician David Blaine hangs upside-down for 60 hours
AP PhotoMagician David Blaine hangs upside down above Central Park's Wollman Rink in New York during his latest endurance challenge. NEW YORK (AP) -- Magician-daredevil David Blaine has safely finished his latest stunt: hanging upside-down without a net high over...www.mlive.com
It really makes me wonder if there was an underlying medical condition at play that made his inversion much worse for him.
The difference with here vs YouTube is there's a back and forth here. Stupid ideas generally get checked, quickly. I know because I've been on both sides of those exchanges. YouTube, however, you have to search for differing opinions, the monetization algorithm favors clickbait/extreme/risky/out there/cutting edge/stupid stuff so there's more of it there with less guard rails.
Just one dummy's opinion though.
Yeah. I must admit I watch a ton of YouTube so I shouldn't comain so much about it, but I use it as an entertainment source, not an educational one mostly.youtube does its own censoring, plus i believe youtubers can now block people or remove your comment or at least report it to youtube as harassing (and we know that if someone now claims victimhood status....well that is a magic 'they are correct' card)
i've seen all sorts of ridiculous stuff on youtube with zero comments shooting it down and if you suggest they are wrong, then the youtuber feels publicly humiliated and then goes off on you
Yeah. I must admit I watch a ton of YouTube so I shouldn't comain so much about it, but I use it as an entertainment source, not an educational one mostly.
Lol. The knaider swaider is as sketchy a climbing method as anything else out there and the popularity of it came from this site. There may be some chatter on here about the negative side of it, but people still advocate for its use today on here. Again I have no problem with this site or its format, but if people on this site are going to place blame on you tube influencers for saddle hunting accidents, then they also need to consider how information on this site influences safety. Yes this site typically has pros and at least some cons on a given technique, but most people use code names. Who are the experts on this site? Which climbing methods demonstrated on here are arborist/mountaineering expert approved? Maybe the role of this site isn’t to be the safety police and let people do their own research, but is it the responsibility of you tube influencers? Why should they get the blame but not this site? Again for the record I don’t think this site should get the blame but I also think it’s unfair for people to blame you tube influencers.Put up something sketchy on this site you will be guaranteed to get skewered and get hammered by multiple people until you sulk away to let that thread die off...
There are a couple people that openly use dental floss, paracord and bubble gum. But they admit openly that they are lucky with Darwin...
And "don't do as I do"disclaimers...
I hate to be talking about this so soon out of respect for the guy and his wife and family. However, the comment his wife made about repelling and getting upside down... that really has me baffled. I've only repelled maybe 50 times this summer, practicing, etc. I can't for the life of me figure out how you could possibly end up upside down. Only thing I could think of is that this particular saddle, the Dryad,
I've played with just lowering myself down to the ground like a "sissy" vs doing it the correct way, walking down the tree while feeding line out. Its all the same, no way in the world you'd get upside down unless you stopped walking and somehow purposely went upside down.
Hey enkriss, is there any chance you can find that post he made explaining in more detail? It would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully we can learn something & adjust accordingly.
David Blaine also held his breath for like 25 minutes. The dude makes millions on stunts like that and trains for literally years.David Blaine hung upside down from his ankles in front of hundreds of people for 60 hours with short breaks for medical checks
Lol. The knaider swaider is as sketchy a climbing method as anything else out there and the popularity of it came from this site. There may be some chatter on here about the negative side of it, but people still advocate for its use today on here. Again I have no problem with this site or its format, but if people on this site are going to place blame on you tube influencers for saddle hunting accidents, then they also need to consider how information on this site influences safety. Yes this site typically has pros and at least some cons on a given technique, but most people use code names. Who are the experts on this site? Which climbing methods demonstrated on here are arborist/mountaineering expert approved? Maybe the role of this site isn’t to be the safety police and let people do their own research, but is it the responsibility of you tube influencers? Why should they get the blame but not this site? Again for the record I don’t think this site should get the blame but I also think it’s unfair for people to blame you tube influencers.
Ah I see. Safety is like climate science. Put it up for a vote and if people like it, then it must be safe. I feel better already.Put the knaider swaider in for a vote.
I bet most that tried it, do use it...
Now if you want to talk about "Saddlehunter" sketch, look no further then the Croc crew...
Safety is in the eye of the beer holderAh I see. Safety is like climate science. Put it up for a vote and if people like it, then it must be safe. I feel better already.
Not an equal comparison. A channel is a place for one person to express and communicate their own view; personal and potentially commercial. Comments are just that on a channel. This is a forum, a collaborative medium.Should this site be held to the same standard? I’d venture to say the majority of saddle hunting info found on you tube originated from or was influenced by this site. Maybe red squirrel should go back and delete every thread on here that isn’t approved by mountaineering, arborist and other industry experts. Some of the sketchiest climbing methods I’ve ever seen originated from this site.
Ah I see. Safety is like climate science. Put it up for a vote and if people like it, then it must be safe. I feel better already.