I use an old backpack that is the size students carry books in until it gets around freezing or lower, then I use a Fanatic pack I got cheap. Fanatic holds Status bibs, second layer and heavy layer, plus snacks, water, coffee, etc. I pull either up with my bow/rifle and then they both sit pretty flat against the tree. Fanatic works great with a stand because it has no sheet or frame. I wouldn't pay full price for a Fanatic pack, it's not worth that much money. I put my saddle in a small zip pouch underneath the seat.