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Sam's Stealth climb...ing hand climber aid?
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I’ve been holding out for a long time on sharing this, but in 2021 myself and a friend patented a SaddleClimber design and are working with a saddle company. I am not allowed to share the name of the company yet. That’s about all I can say for now other than it is highly functional and you guys are getting warmer… I’m stoked to share more but I can’t yet.
This is a cool idea. I want it to be a lot lighter of course, but...
I’ve been holding out for a long time on sharing this, but in 2021 myself and a friend patented a SaddleClimber design and are working with a saddle company. I am not allowed to share the name of the company yet. That’s about all I can say for now other than it is highly functional and you guys are getting warmer… I’m stoked to share more but I can’t yet.
Call it a moment of weaknessHonored you’d spill the beans in the rod ridiculous thread. Why though?
Call it a moment of weakness
No, not really. This is a really old method of building a hand climber. I learned about it a while back on leatherwall. When loggy first cam out with their climbers, they didnt offer a climbing aid. People started building these and using them with bakers and loggys. Heres the thread from the leatherwall: https://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=318297&category=88#4800121Sam's Stealth climb...ing hand climber aid?
No, not really. This is a really old method of building a hand climber. I learned about it a while back on leatherwall. When loggy first cam out with their climbers, they didnt offer a climbing aid. People started building these and using them with bakers and loggys. Heres the thread from the leatherwall: https://leatherwall.bowsite.com/TF/lw/thread2.cfm?threadid=318297&category=88#4800121
At one point, API offered one in the golden buck series of gear that was extremely similar, just with an aluminum handle. I think one could be made very well with an amsteel daisy chain and almost soft shackle like setup of some sort as well.
Actually works quite well. and the wholes setup is just over 14lbs. I got to work out some kinds still though, the foot rest is surprisingly squeaky in the cold, and i'm still trying to figure out the balance point for the foot straps to climb and hone in the whole method.
Yeah, theres a lot of really neat stuff thats already been done to solve problems we are still having today....but without the web at that point, you had to actually talk to people to learn about it. IT took me 5 minutes to build that hand climber...simple and works great...Neat.
My dad had both Baker and Loggy. He used to climb and I sat at the base of a tree with orders not to move an inch. Can't remember what his rig was, stock or some diy. He had a friend who was pretty innovative with gear, maybe he picked something like that up from him. I'll have to ask.
It's fun seeing (learning of) this kind of thing.
That’s fair and your right. I probably shouldn’t have said anything. The reality is this is my first go round ever patenting anything and it’s been an exciting process is all. I’m just a normal guy who makes his living as a youth pastor. There’s a lot I have learned through the process and much I still have to learn. I don’t expect to make much $ off of this, but the endeavor was worth it just in who we were able to interact with along the way. And I think it would be really cool to see our design available to the public one day. We made 4 different prototypes and finally landed on one that we felt was a winner. We made a video and shared it with a company who was excited to partner with us. Due to their request that’s all I can say for now. And honestly the timing of when it comes to market is completely out of my control. It might not be for a long time… Again, lessons learned.Haha I get it.
That said, if your patent has been granted, and your IP is as tight as you are telling yourself, no harm in sharing at this point. Worst case someone comes up with an idea you can monetize. Best case you can avoid the reputation hit of hinting at secrets!
So everyone is searching the web for the patent? LOL.That’s fair and your right. I probably shouldn’t have said anything. The reality is this is my first go round ever patenting anything and it’s been an exciting process is all. I’m just a normal guy who makes his living as a youth pastor. There’s a lot I have learned through the process and much I still have to learn. I don’t expect to make much $ off of this, but the endeavor was worth it just in who we were able to interact with along the way. And I think it would be really cool to see our design available to the public one day. We made 4 different prototypes and finally landed on one that we felt was a winner. We made a video and shared it with a company who was excited to partner with us. Due to their request that’s all I can say for now. And honestly the timing of when it comes to market is completely out of my control. It might not be for a long time… Again, lessons learned.
So like you said, it’s dumb to tease and I don’t want that reputation but perhaps here is a takeaway:
I’d recommend anybody to go after their ideas and if you don’t have time start your own company there may be a company already in existence who would be excited to partner with you. I’ve sat on many ideas for far too long and this process showed me I can have fun and DIY stuff, make prototypes, and if I happen upon a winner of an idea maybe I could even make some money in the process..but that’s bonus. I love the idea, design and prototype phase which is also why I love this forum - it’s filled with guys like me.
My dream one day would be to instead of licensing an idea, rather start my own company - I’m not at that point yet, but I trust I’ll know when the timing is right.
again, sorry for being that guy!
I just hope it's not tethrd, and is instead one of the companies that prioritizes manufacturing and testing over profits. While still being profitable.That’s fair and your right. I probably shouldn’t have said anything. The reality is this is my first go round ever patenting anything and it’s been an exciting process is all. I’m just a normal guy who makes his living as a youth pastor. There’s a lot I have learned through the process and much I still have to learn. I don’t expect to make much $ off of this, but the endeavor was worth it just in who we were able to interact with along the way. And I think it would be really cool to see our design available to the public one day. We made 4 different prototypes and finally landed on one that we felt was a winner. We made a video and shared it with a company who was excited to partner with us. Due to their request that’s all I can say for now. And honestly the timing of when it comes to market is completely out of my control. It might not be for a long time… Again, lessons learned.
So like you said, it’s dumb to tease and I don’t want that reputation but perhaps here is a takeaway:
I’d recommend anybody to go after their ideas and if you don’t have time start your own company there may be a company already in existence who would be excited to partner with you. I’ve sat on many ideas for far too long and this process showed me I can have fun and DIY stuff, make prototypes, and if I happen upon a winner of an idea maybe I could even make some money in the process..but that’s bonus. I love the idea, design and prototype phase which is also why I love this forum - it’s filled with guys like me.
My dream one day would be to instead of licensing an idea, rather start my own company - I’m not at that point yet, but I trust I’ll know when the timing is right.
again, sorry for being that guy!
Seeing the summit open shot from earlier with the welded aluminum I thought about the climber I just got in the mail yesterday. I purchased the new XOP sit and climb style climber. I feel like you could easily do the open shot mod to the seat also and have the benefit of it folding flat. I may give it a try.
XOP Ambush Sit and Climb Replacement Upper
A replacement upper for your climbing tree stand, this assembly comes pre-assembled with everything needed for the upper portion of a sit and climb stand. Includes a 17” wide deluxe foam padded seat with back rest, pivoting sit bar, traction belt with quick adjusting pin locks, and is 350lb...xopoutdoors.com
That’s what I’m asking. If you’re climbing a straight limbless tree of 18” then 2TC is going to do it easier, quieter and faster. Then you have more options for a platform too. You also don’t have to worry about it getting away from you or kicking out.what is the real advantage to the climbing platform? Does it really make it easier? If your going to drag that along, why not take the top and sit. Way more comfortable. Seems hard to swing around the tree if needed. Climbing a strait limbless tree is the easiest to get up. Is it faster? How much faster? Safer? how much safer? Quieter? I guess depends on the user. Eassier?
What am I missing? Or is it something I have to try and see if I like it?