Has anyone ever considered where the saddle industry would be without Tethrd? I'll go out on a limb and say they have greater sales than any other company in the industry, which means they've put more hunters in the tree than any another factor, now you guys that have clogged this thread, and others, up with underhanded comments and retreaded jokes tell me that without Tethrd doing more to increase the customer base where would all the start up companies that manufacture cookie cutter platforms, sticks, and saddles be? Non existent that's where. When I started down the saddle hunting path I joined this forum to educate myself and to be honest I was overwhelmed by the terms, the techniques, and the choices, Tethr was the only company that manufactured and sold it all, while doing their best to educate the newbie like me. Am I a fanboy, No, as my Tethrd gear wears out or needs replaced I'll look at all the options available, and when I drop $400 on a custom made saddle from a smaller company run out of someones garage or when I replace my platform with one from a company that manufacturers a fraction of what Tethrd produces those companies will owe those sales to Tethrd. Leave a positive mark and you all have a happy and safe holiday season.